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wl89spman

08-11-2010, 10:04
What is everybody using to clean tires and not harm them. I still have the new
tire gunk on the tires. how do you get this off? Is the spray on cleaner safe
for tires.What about to use to make them look clean and shiny?

Thanks
Ed Gardels 89SP
Hot n dry Arlington, Tx

mbulriss

08-11-2010, 11:18
Ed,

I usually just clean them with soap and water and a stiff scrub brush. Then
after they dry, I like the Michelin Tire Shine product. Gives them a natural
clean look without being too shiny like Amorall.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX - more like hot and humid here

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
>
> What is everybody using to clean tires and not harm them. I still have the new
tire gunk on the tires. how do you get this off? Is the spray on cleaner safe
for tires.What about to use to make them look clean and shiny?
>
> Thanks
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Hot n dry Arlington, Tx
>

Fred Hulse

08-11-2010, 11:22

Soap and water
tire dressing not recommended by most mfg.
Fred Hulse
Morristown Az
97WLWB MD

Curt Sprenger

08-11-2010, 15:55
AGREE!

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA




On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Fred Hulse <"fhulse@wildblue.net"> wrote:
 



Soap and water
tire dressing not recommended by most mfg.
 Fred Hulse
Morristown Az
97WLWB MD

Wayne Kotila

08-12-2010, 16:32
Hi Fred. does your fan override switch on the dash of your coach kick the radiator fan to high speed even if the engine isn't hot?
Wayne Kotila
96PT42


From: Fred Hulse
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 6:22:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What to use to clean tires




Soap and water
tire dressing not recommended by most mfg.
Fred Hulse
Morristown Az
97WLWB MD

Fred Hulse

08-14-2010, 15:38

Hi Wayne
I have not been able to make the fan come on sitting in the driveway,but I do know I can switch it on when running down the road,I am not certain enough to say for sure,but I think it is wired through the computer.
Not positive.
Fred Hulse
Morristown,Arizona
97 WLWB41

Wayne Kotila

08-14-2010, 16:47
Hi Fred:
How can you tell it comes on going down the road?
I have been trying to figure how it works in order to determine if it works, and or what could be wrong with it.What I have discovered is that the the dash switch for the fan override controls a relay and the relay controls a 12 volt solenoid on a hydraulic valve body mounted just below and to the side of the hydraulic motor that turns the radiator fan. What really surprised me is that this 12 volt solenoid is energized when the ignition is on and the dash switch for fan override is off, when you turn the fan override switch on the solenoid is de-energized. So all the time your engine is running and the switch is off the solenoid is powered, so that would be most of the time. There has to be a return spring of some kind in the hydraulic valve body to return the valve spool back to it's original position after the solenoid de-energizes, so ifthe fan override doesn't work it may be aweak or badspring not returning the valve
spool to it's original position. I was told by Holland Motor homes that turning that dash switch on anytime should make the fan kick into high speed.
The automatic fan speed control is accomplished with a non electric thermostatic switch that is locatedon top ofone of the coolant lines and controls the flow of hydraulic fluid to the valve body.This type of thermostatic switch is supposed to be very reliable and Holland told me that they have never seen a problem with one, and even if the 12 volt fan override controlled with the switch on the dash isn't working the automatic systemshould be operating normally.
Wayne
96PT42


From: Fred Hulse
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 10:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What to use to clean tires




Hi Wayne
I have not been able to make the fan come on sitting in the driveway,but I do know I can switch it on when running down the road,I am not certain enough to say for sure,but I think it is wired through the computer.
Not positive.
Fred Hulse
Morristown,Arizona
97 WLWB41

antique405@...

08-14-2010, 22:00


On my 83 the fan is controlled with air pressure and i put a bypass in. The reason the solenoid id energized is because air pressure keeps the fan off so if you loose air pressure the fan will be on. Don't know if yours is the same but probably is.
Paul Downey
Versailles Ky
In a message dated 8/15/2010 12:47:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, waynekotila@... writes:



Hi Fred:
How can you tell it comes on going down the road?
I have been trying to figure how it works in order to determine if it works, and or what could be wrong with it.What I have discovered is that the the dash switch for the fan override controls a relay and the relay controls a 12 volt solenoid on a hydraulic valve body mounted just below and to the side of the hydraulic motor that turns the radiator fan. What really surprised me is that this 12 volt solenoid is energized when the ignition is on and the dash switch for fan override is off, when you turn the fan override switch on the solenoid is de-energized. So all the time your engine is running and the switch is off the solenoid is powered, so that would be most of the time. There has to be a return spring of some kind in the hydraulic valve body to return the valve spool back to it's original position after the solenoid de-energizes, so ifthe fan override doesn't work it may be aweak or badspring not returning the valve spool to it's original position. I was told by Holland Motor homes that turning that dash switch on anytime should make the fan kick into high speed.
The automatic fan speed control is accomplished with a non electric thermostatic switch that is locatedon top ofone of the coolant lines and controls the flow of hydraulic fluid to the valve body.This type of thermostatic switch is supposed to be very reliable and Holland told me that they have never seen a problem with one, and even if the 12 volt fan override controlled with the switch on the dash isn't working the automatic systemshould be operating normally.
Wayne
96PT42


From: Fred Hulse
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 10:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What to use to clean tires




Hi Wayne
I have not been able to make the fan come on sitting in the driveway,but I do know I can switch it on when running down the road,I am not certain enough to say for sure,but I think it is wired through the computer.
Not positive.
Fred Hulse
Morristown,Arizona
97 WLWB41



Wayne Kotila

08-15-2010, 03:20
In my vintage Wanderlodge it isa 12 volt electric solenoid on a hydraulic valve body, it doesn't use any pnuematics. I don't know if they changed it in the 1990s or if the change came when they switched to the series 60 engines.
Wayne Kotila
96PT42


From: "antique405@..."
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 9:00:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What to use to clean tires




On my 83 the fan is controlled with air pressure and i put a bypass in. The reason the solenoid id energized is because air pressure keeps the fan off so if you loose air pressure the fan will be on. Don't know if yours is the same but probably is.
Paul Downey
Versailles Ky
In a message dated 8/15/2010 12:47:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, waynekotila@... writes:



Hi Fred:
How can you tell it comes on going down the road?
I have been trying to figure how it works in order to determine if it works, and or what could be wrong with it.What I have discovered is that the the dash switch for the fan override controls a relay and the relay controls a 12 volt solenoid on a hydraulic valve body mounted just below and to the side of the hydraulic motor that turns the radiator fan. What really surprised me is that this 12 volt solenoid is energized when the ignition is on and the dash switch for fan override is off, when you turn the fan override switch on the solenoid is de-energized. So all the time your engine is running and the switch is off the solenoid is powered, so that would be most of the time. There has to be a return spring of some kind in the hydraulic valve body to return the valve spool back to it's original position after the solenoid de-energizes, so ifthe fan override doesn't work it may be aweak or badspring not returning the valve
spool to it's original position. I was told by Holland Motor homes that turning that dash switch on anytime should make the fan kick into high speed.
The automatic fan speed control is accomplished with a non electric thermostatic switch that is locatedon top ofone of the coolant lines and controls the flow of hydraulic fluid to the valve body.This type of thermostatic switch is supposed to be very reliable and Holland told me that they have never seen a problem with one, and even if the 12 volt fan override controlled with the switch on the dash isn't working the automatic systemshould be operating normally.
Wayne
96PT42


From: Fred Hulse
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 10:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What to use to clean tires




Hi Wayne
I have not been able to make the fan come on sitting in the driveway,but I do know I can switch it on when running down the road,I am not certain enough to say for sure,but I think it is wired through the computer.
Not positive.
Fred Hulse
Morristown,Arizona
97 WLWB41



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