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Jeff Miller

06-19-2005, 04:47
I agree to some extent.

I stopped carrying spares when I started buying new tires, never had a
new tire problem. However, I have much experience with newer SOB tires
blowing out, and I typically travel on weekends and holidays (working
man's curse). I have seldom been able to find a matching tire when
calling road service at night and on weekends, so carrying an un-
mounted spare would be useful (also avoids being "held for ransom" on
no-name tire prices at the side of the road on a weekend, been there
anyone else?).

I would never again carry a mounted spare. When I have a blowout (5 to
date on Wanderlodges), the tire is never salvagable, usually lots of
sharp wires sticking out of what is left, so why would I want to hoist
that mess to the roof? Road service can usually mount the tire on a rim
at the side of the road, and if it is not an inner-dual I have had the
tire mounted on the rim without removing the rim from the coach further
simplifying the process. Besides, it is unlikely that the tire-service
truck will show up with a forklift to put the mounted blown-tire on the
roof, and I don't want the old tire.

I have had some trouble locating 12R tires, some trouble locating
11R/LRH tires, and some of the 315s etc. in LRJ can't be easier to
find. If traveling in the "boonies", on weekends/nights/holidays, it
might be justifiable to carry an un-mounted spare on the coach.

- Jeff Miller


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> I don't understand the reason to carry a spare these days unless you
> are WAAAy out in the boonies <<snip>>

DAY8293A@...

06-19-2005, 11:49
that sounds like a good idea, having the spare without the rim,,, but,
how do they "blow" the tire onto the rim ,, to seat it so they can pressurize
it??? that was a problem to seat the new tire on the rim,the last time i got
tires. it does save having to look for the tire yes,, but, it will be an old
tire like the one you blew,,, i guess it would be good enough to get back home
with,,,, day jax fla 83 pt-40,,


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DAY8293A@...

06-19-2005, 21:52
aha,,, learned something new,, i have never used the roadside service,
and did not know they carried the equipment to seat a new tire to the rim,, i
thought they only changed the whole tire and rim assembly,,, day jax fla 83
pt-40

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> The same way that they do it off the coach, a high-volume blast of
> air from a second tank and liberal use of lubricant.
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> - Jeff Miller
> http://www.wanderlodge.net
> http://www.millercoachworks.com
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DAY8293A@...

06-19-2005, 21:56
are you serious?? have you ever tried that? i guess it would work,,
but would too much blow it off the rim??? Subj:

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Lighter fluid or hair spray


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Mike Hohnstein

06-20-2005, 00:33
Seating the bead can be a bitch. I mounted the 24.5s personally, the Michelins
were no problem and the Toyos worked OK but the BFGs, no way. I exchanged the
BFGs for the a couple of Michelins and it's all good. If one is forced to work
with off brand, one needs one of them inflator cannons, only makes sense to buy
one of them if you change tires for a living.
Mike Hohnstein
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that sounds like a good idea, having the spare without the rim,,, but,
how do they "blow" the tire onto the rim ,, to seat it so they can pressurize
it??? that was a problem to seat the new tire on the rim,the last time i got
tires. it does save having to look for the tire yes,, but, it will be an old
tire like the one you blew,,, i guess it would be good enough to get back home
with,,,, day jax fla 83 pt-40,,


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Stephen Birtles

06-20-2005, 00:38
An experienced tire mechanic knows how to seat a tire for inflation
without an excesss amount of air
Stephen 77fc35

Jeff Miller

06-20-2005, 00:59
The same way that they do it off the coach, a high-volume blast of
air from a second tank and liberal use of lubricant.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, DAY8293A@C... wrote:
> that sounds like a good idea, having the spare without the
rim,,, but,
> how do they "blow" the tire onto the rim ,, to seat it so they can
pressurize
> it??? that was a problem to seat the new tire on the rim,the last
time i got
> tires. it does save having to look for the tire yes,, but, it will
be an old
> tire like the one you blew,,, i guess it would be good enough to
get back home
> with,,,, day jax fla 83 pt-40,,
>
>
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Blair

06-20-2005, 01:28
Lighter fluid or hair spray



At 08:49 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote:
> that sounds like a good idea, having the spare without the rim,,,
> but,
>how do they "blow" the tire onto the rim ,, to seat it so they can pressurize
>it??? that was a problem to seat the new tire on the rim,the last time i got
>tires. it does save having to look for the tire yes,, but, it will be an old
>tire like the one you blew,,, i guess it would be good enough to get back
>home
>with,,,, day jax fla 83 pt-40,,
>
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Tom Warner

06-20-2005, 02:43
I had a fellow with 35 years of roadside assistance specifically for
tires, repair one of my 11R22.5 16PR General tires in my garage. Not along
side the road but in my garage where he had everything available he needs.
He had one hell of a time seating the bead because of the very very heavy
sidewalls. He told me that that specific tire had the heaviest sidewalls he
had ever seen. Believe me he knows all of the tricks but when you get into
these kinds of tires it takes a real "air cannon", a big compressor, lots
of swearing, and sometimes lots of trying to get it done. He earned his
money doing that tire. I agree with Mike if you try and do it yourself know
what you can get yourself into.

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


At 12:38 PM 6/20/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>An experienced tire mechanic knows how to seat a tire for inflation
>without an excesss amount of air
>Stephen 77fc35
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randydupree

06-20-2005, 10:14
ether/starting fluid is what i use,stand back! huh john? randydupree93wb
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Lighter fluid or hair spray



At 08:49 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote:
> that sounds like a good idea, having the spare without the rim,,,
> but,
>how do they "blow" the tire onto the rim ,, to seat it so they can pressurize
>it??? that was a problem to seat the new tire on the rim,the last time i got
>tires. it does save having to look for the tire yes,, but, it will be an old
>tire like the one you blew,,, i guess it would be good enough to get back
>home
>with,,,, day jax fla 83 pt-40,,
>
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