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Ron Thompson

07-17-2009, 17:45
Hi folks its me again. I'm baaaaackkk.
I need help again. I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995 WLWB 42 footer. I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'. Can anyone help me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
It cools the hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power steering. I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input and output lines. So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles. I ran into severe rock damage on the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa. Took out my radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER. Cost me $2425.00 so far. I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil cooler shipped in.
aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at hand,.
I am desperate. Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn. Maybe Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
Awaiting an answer from anyone.
Ron
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'
(cockyfox@...)

Ron Thompson

07-18-2009, 04:03
The model # of the Hayden oil cooler is EC20624. There is a bluebird part # I found on Kurt's disk, but I suppose that is no good anymore since Bluebird Wanderlodge went belly up.
Has anyone had one of these rebuilt or repaired. Seems to me that an ordinary radiator shop should be able to find and repair a leak. After all it is only an radiator cooler anyway.
It has been removed from my coach and a splice put in the input and output lines. It seems to work but I worry about heat build up. But I have no choice but to limp into Anchorage, after an over night or a couple of days at Denali Park. Anchorage has Camping World store in Anchorage so they might have that cooler in stock. I know I found one in Flagstaff, AZ. but at the time I had no need of one. I just remember seeing it there on a shelf. Anyway that is worth a try. I talked with a hydraulics man and he said I should be ok with bypassing the cooler in these cooler temperatures, just said to watch it if I get stuck in traffic and have to idle a long time. He said I should detect a change in the steering if it gets too hot.
If anyone out there has experience with the bypassing of the cooler please let me know your advice. Or anyone else that has experience of any kind with these coolers.
Thanks for being here with your vast collective knowledge.
I will have trouble responding to any emails since the internet is mostly inaccessible in the boonies as well as cell phone service. Not sure whether Denali will have wifi available or not or even cell phone service.

Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'
(cockyfox@...)

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Ron Thompson wrote:
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 12:45 AM


Hi folks its me again. I'm baaaaackkk.
I need help again. I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995 WLWB 42 footer. I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'. Can anyone help me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
It cools the hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power steering. I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input and output lines. So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles. I ran into severe rock damage on the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa. Took out my radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER. Cost me $2425.00 so far. I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil cooler shipped in.
aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at hand,.
I am desperate. Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn. Maybe Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
Awaiting an answer from anyone.
Ron
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'
(cockyfox@sbcglobal .net)

Kurt Horvath

07-18-2009, 05:01
Hi Ron,

Try this link.

http://www.haydenindustrial.com/electra-...elect.html

Type C should be close to what your looking for.

You'll have to meassure the width other than that they all look to have the same
specs.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> Hi folks its me again.  I'm baaaaackkk.
>  
>
> I need help again.  I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995
WLWB 42 footer.  I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to
locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'.  Can anyone help
me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
>  
> It cools the  hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power
steering.  I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input
and output lines.  So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in
Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles.  I ran into severe rock damage on
the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa.  Took out my
radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER.  Cost me $2425.00 so far. 
I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil
cooler shipped in.
>  
> aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
>  
> I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there
has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at
hand,.
>  
> I am desperate.  Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn.  Maybe
Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
>  
> Awaiting an answer from anyone.
>  
> Ron
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@...)
>

Stephen Birtles

07-18-2009, 05:02
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> The model # of the Hayden oil cooler is EC20624.  There is a bluebird part # I
found on Kurt's disk, but I suppose that is no good anymore since Bluebird
Wanderlodge went belly up.
>  
> Has anyone had one of these rebuilt or repaired.  Seems to me that an ordinary
radiator shop should be able to find and repair a leak.  After all it is only an
radiator cooler anyway.
>  
> It has been removed from my coach and a splice put in the input and output
lines.  It seems to work but I worry about heat build up.  But I have no choice
but to limp into Anchorage, after an over night or a couple of days at Denali
Park.  Anchorage has Camping World store in Anchorage so they might have that
cooler in stock.  I know I found one in Flagstaff, AZ. but at the time I had no
need of one.  I just remember seeing it there on a shelf.  Anyway that is worth
a try.  I talked with a hydraulics man and he said I should be ok with bypassing
the cooler in these cooler temperatures, just said to watch it if I get stuck in
traffic and have to idle a long time.  He said I should detect a change in the
steering if it gets too hot.
>  
> If anyone out there has experience with the bypassing of the cooler please let
me know your advice.  Or anyone else that has experience of any kind with these
coolers.
>  
> Thanks for being here with your vast collective knowledge.
>  
> I will have trouble responding to any emails since the internet is mostly
inaccessible in the boonies as well as cell phone service.  Not sure whether
Denali will have wifi available or not or even cell phone service.
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
>
> From: Ron Thompson
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 12:45 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi folks its me again.  I'm baaaaackkk.
>  
>
> I need help again.  I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995
WLWB 42 footer.  I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to
locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'.  Can anyone help
me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
>  
> It cools the  hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power
steering.  I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input
and output lines.  So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in
Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles.  I ran into severe rock damage on
the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa.  Took out my
radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER.  Cost me $2425.00 so far. 
I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil
cooler shipped in.
>  
> aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
>  
> I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there
has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at
hand,.
>  
> I am desperate.  Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn.  Maybe
Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
>  
> Awaiting an answer from anyone.
>  
> Ron
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@sbcglobal .net)
>

Stephen Birtles

07-18-2009, 05:08
Call hayden


Hayden Industrial Products
A division of Hayden Products, LLC
1531 Pomona Road
Corona, CA 92880
Phone: 951.736.2600
Fax: 951.736.2629

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> The model # of the Hayden oil cooler is EC20624.  There is a bluebird part # I
found on Kurt's disk, but I suppose that is no good anymore since Bluebird
Wanderlodge went belly up.
>  
> Has anyone had one of these rebuilt or repaired.  Seems to me that an ordinary
radiator shop should be able to find and repair a leak.  After all it is only an
radiator cooler anyway.
>  
> It has been removed from my coach and a splice put in the input and output
lines.  It seems to work but I worry about heat build up.  But I have no choice
but to limp into Anchorage, after an over night or a couple of days at Denali
Park.  Anchorage has Camping World store in Anchorage so they might have that
cooler in stock.  I know I found one in Flagstaff, AZ. but at the time I had no
need of one.  I just remember seeing it there on a shelf.  Anyway that is worth
a try.  I talked with a hydraulics man and he said I should be ok with bypassing
the cooler in these cooler temperatures, just said to watch it if I get stuck in
traffic and have to idle a long time.  He said I should detect a change in the
steering if it gets too hot.
>  
> If anyone out there has experience with the bypassing of the cooler please let
me know your advice.  Or anyone else that has experience of any kind with these
coolers.
>  
> Thanks for being here with your vast collective knowledge.
>  
> I will have trouble responding to any emails since the internet is mostly
inaccessible in the boonies as well as cell phone service.  Not sure whether
Denali will have wifi available or not or even cell phone service.
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
>
> From: Ron Thompson
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 12:45 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi folks its me again.  I'm baaaaackkk.
>  
>
> I need help again.  I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995
WLWB 42 footer.  I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to
locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'.  Can anyone help
me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
>  
> It cools the  hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power
steering.  I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input
and output lines.  So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in
Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles.  I ran into severe rock damage on
the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa.  Took out my
radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER.  Cost me $2425.00 so far. 
I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil
cooler shipped in.
>  
> aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
>  
> I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there
has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at
hand,.
>  
> I am desperate.  Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn.  Maybe
Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
>  
> Awaiting an answer from anyone.
>  
> Ron
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@sbcglobal .net)
>

Kurt Horvath

07-18-2009, 05:12
Ron,
Ron,

Check this link.

http://www.haydenindustrial.com/electra-...elect.html

It shound be the first cooler listed in TYPE C

TTEC20264

I sent a post a little while ago it did't post yet.

I looked at my files and did't find that BB number, good work Ron!

I hope this helps.

Kurt Horv ath
95 PT 42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> The model # of the Hayden oil cooler is EC20624.  There is a bluebird part # I
found on Kurt's disk, but I suppose that is no good anymore since Bluebird
Wanderlodge went belly up.
>  
> Has anyone had one of these rebuilt or repaired.  Seems to me that an ordinary
radiator shop should be able to find and repair a leak.  After all it is only an
radiator cooler anyway.
>  
> It has been removed from my coach and a splice put in the input and output
lines.  It seems to work but I worry about heat build up.  But I have no choice
but to limp into Anchorage, after an over night or a couple of days at Denali
Park.  Anchorage has Camping World store in Anchorage so they might have that
cooler in stock.  I know I found one in Flagstaff, AZ. but at the time I had no
need of one.  I just remember seeing it there on a shelf.  Anyway that is worth
a try.  I talked with a hydraulics man and he said I should be ok with bypassing
the cooler in these cooler temperatures, just said to watch it if I get stuck in
traffic and have to idle a long time.  He said I should detect a change in the
steering if it gets too hot.
>  
> If anyone out there has experience with the bypassing of the cooler please let
me know your advice.  Or anyone else that has experience of any kind with these
coolers.
>  
> Thanks for being here with your vast collective knowledge.
>  
> I will have trouble responding to any emails since the internet is mostly
inaccessible in the boonies as well as cell phone service.  Not sure whether
Denali will have wifi available or not or even cell phone service.
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
>
> From: Ron Thompson
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 12:45 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi folks its me again.  I'm baaaaackkk.
>  
>
> I need help again.  I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995
WLWB 42 footer.  I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to
locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'.  Can anyone help
me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
>  
> It cools the  hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power
steering.  I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input
and output lines.  So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in
Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles.  I ran into severe rock damage on
the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa.  Took out my
radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER.  Cost me $2425.00 so far. 
I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil
cooler shipped in.
>  
> aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
>  
> I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there
has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at
hand,.
>  
> I am desperate.  Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn.  Maybe
Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
>  
> Awaiting an answer from anyone.
>  
> Ron
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@sbcglobal .net)
>

Fred Hulse

07-18-2009, 07:26

Ron
I had to replace my 20624 Hayden cooler and we ended up at the Corona,Calif. factory.List price was 2500.00 five years ago.
It too was destroyed by the graveled Alaskan roadswhen the PO had it.
I might suggest you call Hayden and get some advice regarding repair or finding a distributor.
You won't find it in a parts store
Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41

Chuck Wheeler

07-18-2009, 09:11

A good radiator shop can repair and build oil coolers. The local shop build a cooler for me to use on the Allison to take the heat load off the Radiator. Ended up putting on a friends coach so I need to get another one built. We used two small Hayden electric fans on it with a thermostatic control.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Thompson
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:45 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler




Hi folks its me again. I'm baaaaackkk.
I need help again. I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995 WLWB 42 footer. I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'. Can anyone help me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
It cools the hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power steering. I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input and output lines. So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles. I ran into severe rock damage on the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa. Took out my radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER. Cost me $2425.00 so far. I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil cooler shipped in.
aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at hand,.
I am desperate. Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn. Maybe Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
Awaiting an answer from anyone.
Ron
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'
(cockyfox@sbcglobal.net)

Ernie Ekberg

07-18-2009, 09:47
Chuck, on my FC, the transmission cooler was under the forward storage compartment, curb side. Have you thought about that location?


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Chuck Wheeler wrote:

From: Chuck Wheeler
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 4:11 PM


A good radiator shop can repair and build oil coolers. The local shop build a cooler for me to use on the Allison to take the heat load off the Radiator. Ended up putting on a friends coach so I need to get another one built. We used two small Hayden electric fans on it with a thermostatic control.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Wanderlodge Forum@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Ron Thompson
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:45 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler

Hi folks its me again. I'm baaaaackkk.
I need help again. I am in need of a Hayden Hydraulic Oil Cooler for a 1995 WLWB 42 footer. I have searched the internet but so far have not been able to locate the two fan model that is present on the 1995 WLWB 42'. Can anyone help me with a source for that particular Hayden oil cooler.
It cools the hydraulic fluids of the radiator fan and also the power steering. I have bypassed the cooler by inserting a splice between the input and output lines. So far no over heating has been experienced but I am only in Fairbanks and have driven only a few miles. I ran into severe rock damage on the Alaska highway between Whitehorse, BC and Border City Usa. Took out my radiator and created a leak in the HAYDEN OIL COOLER. Cost me $2425.00 so far. I am about 6,000 or more miles from home in Texas and need to get an Hayden Oil cooler shipped in.
aThe oil cooler was the original one installed at birth for the Bird.
I don't have the model number right in front of me but one of you out there has been up this road before and might have the source for the cooler right at hand,.
I am desperate. Now that Bluebird is out of business where do we turn. Maybe Coach works is monitoring these messages and can help me.
Awaiting an answer from anyone.
Ron
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'
(cockyfox@sbcglobal .net)

Ron Thompson

07-18-2009, 13:44
Wow, Fred, $2500.00. I am glad we tore mine apart and found the problem. A mechanic at Alaska RV in Fairbanks opened it up and found the crack in the fitting. I was coming by this morning to pick it up and head out for Anchorage to get a radiator shop to see if they could fix it. Bill Hamilton was the mechanic at Alaska RV. He is an excellent mechanic and a ver concientious person. He came in on Saturday to work on it and he and I soldered the crack and put it back in service and I am one happy camper. And I am also at least $2500.00 richer. LOL It must have been one big rock that got my oil cooler to make an inch long crack in a 1 1/2" copper fitting. It was a job taking it out and putting it back in but well worth the effort.

Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.

1995 WLWB 42'

(cockyfox@...)

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Fred Hulse wrote:
From: Fred Hulse
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hayden hydraulic oil cooler
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 2:26 PM





Ron
I had to replace my 20624 Hayden cooler and we ended up at the Corona,Calif. factory.List price was 2500.00 five years ago.
It too was destroyed by the graveled Alaskan roadswhen the PO had it.
I might suggest you call Hayden and get some advice regarding repair or finding a distributor.
You won't find it in a parts store
Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41
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