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gasparillaglass

05-21-2009, 06:23
I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT
WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I
ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO
I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL
ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND
DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER
#258646
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
JAMIE BRANDT
1990 WB40
PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA
JAMIE@...

smquandt

05-21-2009, 06:38

Check you air filter to see that it is not
plugged. That happened to mine a year or so ago.

Steve Quandt

1993 PT-40

Iron Mountain, MI


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GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP









I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED
GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I
DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO

I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL

ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND
DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER
#258646

ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL



THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

JAMIE BRANDT

1990 WB40

PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA

"JAMIE%40GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"

PRWillms@...

05-21-2009, 07:18
Hi Jamie, I have a 88XXV with the same gen set. Check
a few things. Go to the basement and turn off the breakers from the gen
set. If there is a short the Gen won't run. On the gen it self, there is
a solenoid to keep the fuel control throttle open. The wire can vibrate off or
have grease on it. There are sensors to turn off the gen if you loose oil
pressure or the gen gets to hot. If any are not working they would keep the gen
from running. I have had the breaker, solenoid, and hot sensor have
problems. Most were loose wires. For the Filters, mine has a Racor filter
canister. It's located on the right side of the gen set conected to the coach. If this is what you have let me know and I'll send you the numbers for the filter.


Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92

South Lake Tahoe, Ca



-----Original Message-----

From: gasparillaglass

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23 am

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP







I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO

I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL

ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646

ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL



THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

JAMIE BRANDT

1990 WB40

PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA

"JAMIE%40GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"




Pete Masterson

05-21-2009, 10:10
Check the air filter. Black smoke is a sign that the engine isn't getting enough air.
NAPA Auto parts (and many other auto parts stores) will have cross reference lists for filters, if someone on this list doesn't have the right numbers.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"


On May 21, 2009, at 11:23 AM, gasparillaglass wrote:

I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO
I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL
ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
JAMIE BRANDT
1990 WB40
PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA
"JAMIE@GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"



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Curt Sprenger

05-21-2009, 10:30
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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Pete Masterson <"aeonix1@mac.com"> wrote:





Check the air filter. Black smoke is a sign that the engine isn't getting enough air.

NAPA Auto parts (and many other auto parts stores)  will have cross reference lists for filters, if someone on this list doesn't have the right numbers.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"


On May 21, 2009, at 11:23 AM, gasparillaglass wrote:
I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO

I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL
ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL


THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
JAMIE BRANDT
1990 WB40
PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA
"JAMIE@GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"



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Jamie Brandt

05-21-2009, 11:06
im not sure what you mein by the basement
But I do get the idea
I will check all cenections
are you saying if i turn the breakers off that it will run??


From: "PRWillms@..." To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP





Hi Jamie, I have a 88XXV with the same gen set. Check a few things. Go to the basement and turn off the breakers from the gen set. If there is a short the Gen won't run. On the gen it self, there is a solenoid to keep the fuel control throttle open. The wire can vibrate off or have grease on it. There are sensors to turn off the gen if you loose oil pressure or the gen gets to hot. If any are not working they would keep the gen from running. I have had the breaker, solenoid, and hot sensor have problems. Most were loose wires. For the Filters, mine has a Racor filter canister. It's located on the right side of the gen set conected to the coach. If this is what you have let me know and I'll send you the numbers for the filter.

Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92
South Lake Tahoe, Ca
-----Original Message-----
From: gasparillaglass yahoo.com>
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23 am
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP




I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO
I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL
ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
JAMIE BRANDT
1990 WB40
PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA
"JAMIE%40GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"

PRWillms@...

05-21-2009, 11:35
Hi I had some work done on the coach. In my storage area, front left is a breaker box. There are only 2 breakers that are 50 amp each. They are for each leg in the coach. If you have a short in the lines to the coach from the Gen, the gen engine will not run.



Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92

South Lake Tahoe, Ca





-----Original Message-----

From: Jamie Brandt

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 4:06 pm

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP







im not sure what you mein by the basement
But I do get the idea
I will check all cenections
are you saying if i turn the breakers off that it will run??



From: "PRWillms@aol.com" com>

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:18:25 PM

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP



Hi Jamie, I have a 88XXV with the same gen set. Check a few things. Go to the basement and turn off the breakers from the gen set. If there is a short the Gen won't run. On the gen it self, there is a solenoid to keep the fuel control throttle open. The wire can vibrate off or have grease on it. There are sensors to turn off the gen if you loose oil pressure or the gen gets to hot. If any are not working they would keep the gen from running. I have had the breaker, solenoid, and hot sensor have problems. Most were loose wires. For the Filters, mine has a Racor filter canister. It's located on the right side of the gen set conected to the coach. If this is what you have let me know and I'll send you the numbers for the filter.


Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92

South Lake Tahoe, Ca



-----Original Message-----

From: gasparillaglass yahoo.com>

To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23 am

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP






I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO

I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL

ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646

ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL



THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

JAMIE BRANDT

1990 WB40

PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA

"JAMIE%40GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"






Ernie Ekberg

05-21-2009, 12:35
Paul, do you have a photo of your coach that we can use for the home page?


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Thu, 5/21/09, PRWillms@... wrote:

From: PRWillms@... Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 6:35 PM


Hi I had some work done on the coach. In my storage area, front left is a breaker box. There are only 2 breakers that are 50 amp each. They are for each leg in the coach. If you have a short in the lines to the coach from the Gen, the gen engine will not run.

Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92
South Lake Tahoe, Ca


-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Brandt
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP




im not sure what you mein by the basement
But I do get the idea
I will check all cenections
are you saying if i turn the breakers off that it will run??


From: "PRWillms@aol. com" To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP


Hi Jamie, I have a 88XXV with the same gen set. Check a few things. Go to the basement and turn off the breakers from the gen set. If there is a short the Gen won't run. On the gen it self, there is a solenoid to keep the fuel control throttle open. The wire can vibrate off or have grease on it. There are sensors to turn off the gen if you loose oil pressure or the gen gets to hot. If any are not working they would keep the gen from running. I have had the breaker, solenoid, and hot sensor have problems. Most were loose wires. For the Filters, mine has a Racor filter canister. It's located on the right side of the gen set conected to the coach. If this is what you have let me know and I'll send you the numbers for the filter.

Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92
South Lake Tahoe, Ca
-----Original Message-----
From: gasparillaglass yahoo.com>
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23 am
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP




I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO
I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL
ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
JAMIE BRANDT
1990 WB40
PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA
"JAMIE%40GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"


PRWillms@...

05-21-2009, 13:37
Here is a Pic of our coach, "SeekingOz", in South Lake Tahoe, Ca





Paul Williams
SeekingOz 88XXV
8V92

South Lake Tahoe, Ca

-----Original Message-----

From: Ernie Ekberg

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 5:35 pm

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP







Paul, do you have a photo of your coach that we can use for the home page?



Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx




--- On Thu, 5/21/09, PRWillms@aol.com com> wrote:

From: PRWillms@aol.com com>

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 6:35 PM



Hi I had some work done on the coach. In my storage area, front left is a breaker box. There are only 2 breakers that are 50 amp each. They are for each leg in the coach. If you have a short in the lines to the coach from the Gen, the gen engine will not run.



Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92

South Lake Tahoe, Ca





-----Original Message-----

From: Jamie Brandt

To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 4:06 pm

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP






im not sure what you mein by the basement
But I do get the idea
I will check all cenections
are you saying if i turn the breakers off that it will run??



From: "PRWillms@aol. com"
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:18:25 PM

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP



Hi Jamie, I have a 88XXV with the same gen set. Check a few things. Go to the basement and turn off the breakers from the gen set. If there is a short the Gen won't run. On the gen it self, there is a solenoid to keep the fuel control throttle open. The wire can vibrate off or have grease on it. There are sensors to turn off the gen if you loose oil pressure or the gen gets to hot. If any are not working they would keep the gen from running. I have had the breaker, solenoid, and hot sensor have problems. Most were loose wires. For the Filters, mine has a Racor filter canister. It's located on the right side of the gen set conected to the coach. If this is what you have let me know and I'll send you the numbers for the filter.


Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92

South Lake Tahoe, Ca



-----Original Message-----

From: gasparillaglass yahoo.com>

To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23 am

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP






I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO

I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL

ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646

ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL



THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

JAMIE BRANDT

1990 WB40

PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA

"JAMIE%40GASPARILLAGLASS.COM"






GARY MINKER

05-22-2009, 08:14
Did anyone mention a stuck injector? Load the two filters with Howe's meaner cleaner in a 15% concentration, bleed the system and run it for all it is worth, smoke and all. You could have a stuck injector or pump. The Howe's is good stuff though some swear by Lucas.
Gary

--- On Thu, 5/21/09, Jamie Brandt wrote:
From: Jamie Brandt
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 7:06 PM



im not sure what you mein by the basement
But I do get the idea
I will check all cenections
are you saying if i turn the breakers off that it will run??


From: "PRWillms@aol. com" To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP





Hi Jamie, I have a 88XXV with the same gen set. Check a few things. Go to the basement and turn off the breakers from the gen set. If there is a short the Gen won't run. On the gen it self, there is a solenoid to keep the fuel control throttle open. The wire can vibrate off or have grease on it. There are sensors to turn off the gen if you loose oil pressure or the gen gets to hot. If any are not working they would keep the gen from running. I have had the breaker, solenoid, and hot sensor have problems. Most were loose wires. For the Filters, mine has a Racor filter canister. It's located on the right side of the gen set conected to the coach. If this is what you have let me know and I'll send you the numbers for the filter.

Paul Williams
seekingoz 88XXV
8V92
South Lake Tahoe, Ca
-----Original Message-----
From: gasparillaglass yahoo.com>
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23 am
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] GENERATOR INFO NEEDED PLEASE HELP




I HAVE A 1990 WB40 BIRD WITH A KOHLER YANMAR POWERED GENERATOR FOR SOME RESON IT WILL NOT KEEP RUNNING IT PUTTING OUT BLACK SMOKE I DONT USE IT TO MUCH BUT I ALWAYS START IT HERE AND THER BUT THIS TIME NO GO
I FIGURE IT COULD BE THE FUEL
ANYWAY THE BOOK SAID IT SHOULD HAVE A FUEL FILTER # 252765 WHICH I CANT FIND DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHER I CAN GET THE RIGHT FILTER ALSO I NEED THE AIR FILTER #258646
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPAIR MANUAL

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
JAMIE BRANDT
1990 WB40
PORT CHARLOTTE FLORIDA
JAMIE@GASPARILLAGLA SS.COM


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