Pete Masterson
06-13-2008, 04:58
Rattles ... yes, I have 'em... Lots of 'em ...
The previous owner obviously had gone to some trouble chasing after rattles as I've found bits of foam tape on edges of window blinds, and extra leg installed under the dining table (good job, I didn't realize it was an extra until I pulled the table out to install the new flooring), and other efforts noticed on close inspection. However, dishes and other things in cabinets -- and the cabinets themselves -- along with basement items and many other things all can vibrate and rattle.
I'm not particularly pleased to find the occasional screw or washer laying on the floor -- having fallen from who knows where!Â
But, so long as I can turn up the volume on the radio sufficiently, the rattling isn't too bothersome.Â
The one variable I've noticed is that prevailing winds can affect the rattles/wind noises. If the wind is generally from the right, one set of windows sings is song of joy ... wind from another direction will set up a different tune. While our car is generally one of the least noisy -- I've grown accustomed to the songs of the road sung by my 'bird and I often consider the comment of a more experienced RVer who reminded me, it's like having a Richter 8 earthquake in your home each time you drive the coach...
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:10 AM, David Brady wrote:
Let us know what you find out Pete. I assume that the plastic channel was
installed by Peninsula. It's possible that it was added later by BlueBird. Sure
does work. To cinch the screen I use a pen, or similarly skinny object, and
shift the plastic channel towards the rear of the bus. The channel then rides
up on the curvature of the window, at the corner, and forces the screen
upward "clamping" it into the window. My windows are silent. No high
pitch tones either. The trouble with this fix, as with any rattle fix, is that
we've just peeled the onion; i.e, those rattling screens cover up a lot of
other noises that you didn't know existed.
David Brady
Pete Masterson wrote:
That sounds like exactly what I need. There's a lot of rattling going on with a couple of the windows. But I also get wind noise (high-pitched whistle). Due to the age of my windows, the sealing simply seems to be worn down. It hadn't occurred to me before, but I'll contact PeninsulaÂGlass and see if they have any ideas on how to renew the weather stripping. Pete Masterson'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42El Sobrante CA"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:42 AM, David Brady wrote:
What makes noise on my side windows are the screens - they rattle
over bumps. I found that Penisula Glass put a plastic channel at the
base of my screens that slides in another extruded channel in the
window frame. The plastic piece is a few inches shorter than the window
frame. It's purpose is to cinch the screen into the extruded window
frame to prevent rattling. It works. If you don't have such an item,
you can probably get it from Peninsula. It's a simple matter to pop
out the screen, seat the plastic channel, and re-insert the screen.
David Brady,
'02 LXi, NC
Pete Masterson wrote:
I actually only replaced the outside edge, top and bottom but not the hinge-edge of the weather stripping. The hinge edge was more bother, so I put it off. I then noticed that the wind noise I was getting had gone away.I also got rid of some wind noises in the door window by installing some weather stripping there, too. I used a kind of 'fur' stuff -- stiff fibers about 1/16" long that stick up from a 3/16" sticky tape.I have a bit of similar wind noise from the driver's side window as well. Installing a bunch more of the fur-stuff is on my to do list.ÂThese kinds of things are endless -- I have several of the other windows that need troubleshooting for rattles and wind noise as well. Difficulty there is that it helps to be able to sit/stand near the window and experiment to find exactly where the noise/air leak is coming from. I can't do that while I'm driving. Wife won't drive the bus. So I need to wait for a day when there's gale force winds blowing so I can fiddle with the windows while parked... (We don't get many of those days around here.)Pete Masterson'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42El Sobrante CA"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Jun 13, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
The most annoying noise resulting from wind at the entry door comesÂfrom atop the passanger seat. 1- opening up the airvent pressurizesÂthe cab enough to keep air from entering.(close rear windows also) 2-Saying "What,,, What,,,, What,,," is effective in reduction of seatÂnoise. I don't get the 'skin the cat anology' but these are two ofÂthose other ways.Less weather strip is needed at the hinge side. too much will liftÂthe hinge and soon distort. hollow strips seem to seal better withÂless pressure but when you distort the mechanics, you end up needingÂnewspaper sticking out the jam.ÂGregoryO'Connor94ptRomolandCa --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", David Brady "dmb993@..."Âwrote:Yes, that piano hinge doesn't help. It was okay on a school bus(with 2 doors meeting in the center), but it's not quite goodÂenoughon a single door motorhome. What we need is a true automotivestyle door hinge, which pulls the door out away from the vehiclerather than a piano hinge which severely pinches the weatherÂstrippingadjacent to the hinge. Alas, we're probably stuck with it.David'02 LXi, NCPete Masterson wrote:I've examined the door geometry very closely. It doesn't seemÂlikeÂthere's any real solution -- it appears to be a "feature" (as inÂ"that's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature")... When myÂweatherÂstripping was failing, the door was easier to close, but thenÂthereÂwere some air leaks and wind noise. Once I renewed the weatherÂstripÂ(with a profile that was quite similar to the original) then theÂdoorÂwas a bit harder to close, but the air leaks and wind noise wasÂgone.ÂI've adjusted to it and have become accustomed to using a firmÂhandÂwhen closing the door. It's not really an excessive amount ofÂforce,Âbut it is rather more than is required for most vehicles. IÂchalk itÂup to being a Blue Bird quirk.Pete Masterson'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42El Sobrante CAaeonix1@... <"aeonix1"@...>On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:48 PM, brad barton wrote:Pete,ÂThat is exactly what happens on mine. Very frustrating. AlsoÂnoÂreal way that anyone knows of to adjust it.Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... <"bbartonwx"@...>   --------------------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- ------------  To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"  <"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com">  From: aeonix1@... <"aeonix1"@...>  Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:56:22 -0700  Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Door repairs  I'll note that the door on my coach must be shut withÂauthority  (like you mean it) or the automotive-type lock won't latch  properly. This was the situation with the original weather  stripping and with the weather stripping I installed. OnceÂthe  automotive latch is properly activated, then the dead boltÂlines  up properly.  If you try to open the door with the dead bolt locked, thenÂwhen  the automotive latch releases, the pressure on the deadÂbolt is  sufficient that the solenoid won't move it. Depending onÂwhich  side of the door you're on, you either have to pull or pushÂon  the door to relieve the pressure on the dead bolt, then the  solenoid will through the bolt.  Pete Masterson  '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42  El Sobrante CA  aeonix1@... <"aeonix1"@...>  On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:    Ryan, when I use the keyless on my '94 I have to pushÂon the    door to    line up the deadbolt. This is all done blind folded asÂI cant    see or    feel what is going on in the jamb. I think someoneÂreplaced the    seal with a too ambitious foam/rubber product. fatÂseals endup    causing the door operator to slam and place a hard turnÂon the    lock. One other issue is that the door on my 94 isÂalumnium and    swells more than the steel frame in the sun. just someÂthings to    consider with your project--------------------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- --------Instantly invite friends from Facebook and other socialÂnetworks toÂjoin you on Windows Live⢠Messenger. Invite friends now!Âsource=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriend s> --------------------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -------No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG.ÂVersion: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1500 - Release Date:Â6/12/2008 4:58 PM--------------------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:<*> Your email settings:  Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:  (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:  "WanderlodgeForum-digest@yahoogroups.com"  "WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com"<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  "WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com"<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
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