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Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

the inverter/charger to your particular application.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear Kurt Horvath,



They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M

model and then the RV 3012 GS :



The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.



The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models

were:

SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

CHARGE RATE – 80%



The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has

the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements

made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.

Both models were designed for RV use.

"RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?"



You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google"

search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available

as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom

if they are really 15 years old.



I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.



But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if

an RC7 comes with it.

For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email.

Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Website: www.xantrex.com



Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

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-----------------------------------------

Case number: 00102708

Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or

are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be

reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the

model

I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to

do the inverter sysytem.

Thanks for your time,



Kurt Horvath





--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Dorn Hetzel"

wrote:

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: Nick Klein

> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]

> To: "dorn@..."

>

>

> [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

>

>

> Dear dorn,

>

> They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

explanation:

>

> This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which

were

> 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for

> Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

default

> programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7 &

RC7GS

> Setup Menus".)

>

> Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they

> were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

had no other

> unique features. Warranty is the same.

>

> The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models were:

> SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> CHARGE RATE – 80%

>

> Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

>

>

> For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the

> case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

>

>

> Technical Support

> Customer Service Operations

> Xantrex Technology Inc.

> Website: www.xantrex.com

>

> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is

> for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential

and

> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,

please

> contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

original

> message.

>

> -----------------------------------------

>

> Case number: 00102618

> Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

other

> RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

models still

> suitable for an RV application?

>

Hi Kurt,



Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to
control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
replace all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't find any info about the two working together.

Terry

bumpersbird wrote:

Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

the inverter/charger to your particular application.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear Kurt Horvath,



They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M

model and then the RV 3012 GS :



The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.



The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models

were:

SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

CHARGE RATE – 80%



The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has

the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements

made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.



Both models were designed for RV use.



"RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?"



You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google"

search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available

as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom

if they are really 15 years old.



I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.



But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if

an RC7 comes with it.



For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email.



Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Website: www.xantrex.com



Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain

confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,

use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and

destroy all copies of the original message.



-----------------------------------------



Case number: 00102708

Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or

are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be

reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the

model

I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to

do the inverter sysytem.

Thanks for your time,



Kurt Horvath





--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Dorn Hetzel"

wrote:

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: Nick Klein

> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref
]

> To: "dorn@..." "dorn@..."

>

>

> [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

>

>

> Dear dorn,

>

> They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

explanation:

>

> This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which


were

> 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for

> Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

default

> programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7
&

RC7GS

> Setup Menus".)

>

> Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they

> were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

had no other

> unique features. Warranty is the same.

>

> The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models were:

> SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> CHARGE RATE – 80%

>

> Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

>

>

> For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the

> case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

>

>

> Technical Support

> Customer Service Operations

> Xantrex Technology Inc.

> Website: www.xantrex.com

>

> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is

> for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential

and

> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,


please

> contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

original

> message.

>

> -----------------------------------------

>

> Case number: 00102618

> Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

other

> RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

models still

> suitable for an RV application?

>

Terry,



Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.



I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun Electric

is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.



I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent

answers. About all aspects of these units.



I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in

Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question was

did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get

these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the

bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a problem

the old compartment is really not large enough for the new inveters.



With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more

Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also told me

he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.

With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running off

of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.

The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be

nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel

economy is welcomed.



Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is coming

out, slide and electric components included.



I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best

deal for the $'s.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42 WLWB



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear kurt daniel horvath,



"Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."



No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to locate

an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have a

NOS unit.



"Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"



If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who

purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the

warranty.



Xantrex Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Email: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"

Website: www.xantrex.com

t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707

f: (360) 435-2636

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--------------- Original Message ---------------

From: kurt daniel horvath ["kguns%40hughes.net"]

To: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"

Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]



Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?



----Original Message----

From: "kguns%40hughes.net"

Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM

To: <"customerservice%40xantrex.com">

Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]



Dear Mr.Nick Klien.



Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.

If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple

choice of which control is available.

Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are an

exceptional deal at this time.



Thank You for your time,

Kurt Horvath

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Terry Neal wrote:

>

> Hi Kurt,

>

> Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to

> control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &

replace

> all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT. Can't

find

> any info about the two working together.

> Terry

>

> bumpersbird wrote:

>

> > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.

> >

> > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

> > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.

> >

> > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

> > the inverter/charger to your particular application.

> >

> > Kurt Horvath

> > 95 PT-42

> >

> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

> >

> > Dear Kurt Horvath,

> >

> > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the

RV3012M

> > model and then the RV 3012 GS :

> >

> > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were

only

> > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a

series

> > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

> > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

> >

> > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

> > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.

> >

> > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models

> > were:

> > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > CHARGE RATE – 80%

> >

> > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

> > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely

has

> > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

> > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few

enhancements

> > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.

> >

> > Both models were designed for RV use.

> >

> > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

> > cost be?"

> >

> > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

> > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing

a "google"

> > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer

available

> > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.

> >

> > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the

freedom

> > if they are really 15 years old.

> >

> > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.

> >

> > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine

if

> > an RC7 comes with it.

> >

> > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

> > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the

email.

> >

> > Technical Support

> > Customer Service Operations

> > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > Website: www.xantrex.com

> >

> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

contain

> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,

> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and

> > destroy all copies of the original message.

> >

> > -----------------------------------------

> >

> > Case number: 00102708

> > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

> > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

> > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model

or

> > are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M

be

> > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can

the

> > model

> > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

> > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

> > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

> > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time

to

> > do the inverter sysytem.

> > Thanks for your time,

> >

> > Kurt Horvath

> >

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > , "Dorn Hetzel"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > From: Nick Klein

> > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [

ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]

> > > To: "dorn@"

> > >

> > >

> > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear dorn,

> > >

> > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

> > explanation:

> > >

> > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,

which

> > were

> > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

> > used for

> > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

> > default

> > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7

&

> > RC7GS

> > > Setup Menus".)

> > >

> > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > Otherwise they

> > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

> > had no other

> > > unique features. Warranty is the same.

> > >

> > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

> > models were:

> > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT

> > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO

> > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > > CHARGE RATE - 80%

> > >

> > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

> > >

> > >

> > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

> > include the

> > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

> > >

> > >

> > > Technical Support

> > > Customer Service Operations

> > > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > >

> > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > attachments, is

> > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain

confidential

> > and

> > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,

disclosure or

> > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended

recipient,

> > please

> > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

> > original

> > > message.

> > >

> > > -----------------------------------------

> > >

> > > Case number: 00102618

> > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> > > Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

> > other

> > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

> > models still

> > > suitable for an RV application?

> > >

> >

> >

>