erniecarpet@...
03-09-2008, 01:11
I bet the unit is shot.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana
83PT40
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03-09-2008, 01:11
erniecarpet@...
03-09-2008, 02:07
In a message dated 3/9/2008 11:05:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, billpatty@... writes:
Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
who would feed my dogs??
Thanks for the info, Bill.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana
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Ernest Ekberg
03-09-2008, 04:09
Woke up this am, 1/2 tank of propane and the leak detector has shut the
gas off. I took the unit apart, blew it out with compressed air, and it
still defaults to red with the alarm. Any ideas?
Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana-- no fried eggs, today
gas off. I took the unit apart, blew it out with compressed air, and it
still defaults to red with the alarm. Any ideas?
Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana-- no fried eggs, today
pattypape
03-09-2008, 04:42
Ernie,
Could be a gas leak under the frig or stove.
Try to figure out if the heaters used the propane during this harsh
Winter. The detector could be defective, if it is the original.
The replacement is a CCI Industries Control
http://www.ccicontrols.com/
http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAct...rodID=6776
BILL 88 FC Michigan
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
>
> Woke up this am, 1/2 tank of propane and the leak detector has shut
the
> gas off. I took the unit apart, blew it out with compressed air,
and it
> still defaults to red with the alarm. Any ideas?
> Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana-- no fried eggs, today
>
Could be a gas leak under the frig or stove.
Try to figure out if the heaters used the propane during this harsh
Winter. The detector could be defective, if it is the original.
The replacement is a CCI Industries Control
http://www.ccicontrols.com/
http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAct...rodID=6776
BILL 88 FC Michigan
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
>
> Woke up this am, 1/2 tank of propane and the leak detector has shut
the
> gas off. I took the unit apart, blew it out with compressed air,
and it
> still defaults to red with the alarm. Any ideas?
> Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana-- no fried eggs, today
>
Bob Lawrence
03-09-2008, 04:51
Mine is original. I wonder how you tell when it is going bad?
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Boulder City, Nv
> Could be a gas leak under the frig or stove.
> Try to figure out if the heaters used the propane during this harsh
> Winter. The detector could be defective, if it is the original.
>
> The replacement is a CCI Industries Control
>
> http://www.ccicontrols.com/
>
> http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAct...rodID=6776
>
> BILL 88 FC Michigan
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> wrote:
> >
> > Woke up this am, 1/2 tank of propane and the leak detector has
shut
> the
> > gas off. I took the unit apart, blew it out with compressed air,
> and it
> > still defaults to red with the alarm. Any ideas?
> > Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana-- no fried eggs, today
> >
>
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Boulder City, Nv
> Could be a gas leak under the frig or stove.
> Try to figure out if the heaters used the propane during this harsh
> Winter. The detector could be defective, if it is the original.
>
> The replacement is a CCI Industries Control
>
> http://www.ccicontrols.com/
>
> http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAct...rodID=6776
>
> BILL 88 FC Michigan
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
>
> >
> > Woke up this am, 1/2 tank of propane and the leak detector has
shut
> the
> > gas off. I took the unit apart, blew it out with compressed air,
> and it
> > still defaults to red with the alarm. Any ideas?
> > Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana-- no fried eggs, today
> >
>
pattypape
03-09-2008, 06:02
Hey Ernie & Bob,
Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it yelps.
IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve , then add
a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid valve, This
will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts, then the
detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8 Volts.
You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
flamable propane gas.
Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
Bill 88 FC Michigan
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> I bet the unit is shot.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Montana
>
>
>
>
> **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL
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>
Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it yelps.
IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve , then add
a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid valve, This
will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts, then the
detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8 Volts.
You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
flamable propane gas.
Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
Bill 88 FC Michigan
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> I bet the unit is shot.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Montana
>
>
>
>
> **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL
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>
Bruce Morris
03-09-2008, 06:34
When I replaced a detector in my CC I talked to an engineer about the detector and was told that they should be replaced about the same time you replace tires. Every 7 years or so. The explanation was that there an element in them that deteriorates over time.
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----- Original Message -----From: "erniecarpet@aol.com"To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:11 PMSubject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Gas leak detector
I bet the unit is shot.Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana
Gregory OConnor
03-09-2008, 14:25
Thats a good test. I am so uneasy with my 14 year old unit that I
even question the results of 'rally potlucks' that wake me and catch
my attention in the middle of the night.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
> Hey Ernie & Bob,
>
> Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
> Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it yelps.
>
> IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve , then
add
> a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid valve,
This
> will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts, then
the
> detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8
Volts.
> You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
> open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
> voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
> flamable propane gas.
> Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> >
> > I bet the unit is shot.
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston, Montana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL
> Money &
> > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?
NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
> >
>
even question the results of 'rally potlucks' that wake me and catch
my attention in the middle of the night.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
> Hey Ernie & Bob,
>
> Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
> Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it yelps.
>
> IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve , then
add
> a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid valve,
This
> will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts, then
the
> detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8
Volts.
> You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
> open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
> voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
> flamable propane gas.
> Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> >
> > I bet the unit is shot.
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston, Montana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL
> Money &
> > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?
NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
> >
>
Gardner Yeaw
03-09-2008, 14:41
Be careful using a cigarett lighter, most are Butane. Some propane
detectors can be damaged by using butane to test them. I use a
propane torch, unlighted of course, to test.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Thats a good test. I am so uneasy with my 14 year old unit that I
> even question the results of 'rally potlucks' that wake me and
catch
> my attention in the middle of the night.
>
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Ernie & Bob,
> >
> > Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
> > Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it
yelps.
> >
> > IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve ,
then
> add
> > a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid valve,
> This
> > will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts, then
> the
> > detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8
> Volts.
> > You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
> > open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
> > voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
> > flamable propane gas.
> > Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I bet the unit is shot.
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Livingston, Montana
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on
AOL
> > Money &
> > > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?
> NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
> > >
> >
>
detectors can be damaged by using butane to test them. I use a
propane torch, unlighted of course, to test.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> Thats a good test. I am so uneasy with my 14 year old unit that I
> even question the results of 'rally potlucks' that wake me and
catch
> my attention in the middle of the night.
>
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Ernie & Bob,
> >
> > Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
> > Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it
yelps.
> >
> > IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve ,
then
> add
> > a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid valve,
> This
> > will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts, then
> the
> > detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8
> Volts.
> > You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
> > open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
> > voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
> > flamable propane gas.
> > Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I bet the unit is shot.
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Livingston, Montana
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on
AOL
> > Money &
> > > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?
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> > >
> >
>
Gardner Yeaw
03-09-2008, 14:53
I went back to look for the article I read a ways back about Butane
damaging gas detectors, but I can't find it. It may have been
relative to older units rather than todays detectors.
Gardner
78FC33
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Be careful using a cigarett lighter, most are Butane. Some propane
> detectors can be damaged by using butane to test them. I use a
> propane torch, unlighted of course, to test.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Thats a good test. I am so uneasy with my 14 year old unit that
I
> > even question the results of 'rally potlucks' that wake me and
> catch
> > my attention in the middle of the night.
> >
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Ernie & Bob,
> > >
> > > Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
> > > Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it
> yelps.
> > >
> > > IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve ,
> then
> > add
> > > a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid
valve,
> > This
> > > will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts,
then
> > the
> > > detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8
> > Volts.
> > > You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
> > > open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
> > > voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
> > > flamable propane gas.
> > > Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
> > >
> > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I bet the unit is shot.
> > > >
> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > > 83PT40
> > > > Livingston, Montana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on
> AOL
> > > Money &
> > > > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?
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> > > >
> > >
> >
>
damaging gas detectors, but I can't find it. It may have been
relative to older units rather than todays detectors.
Gardner
78FC33
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Be careful using a cigarett lighter, most are Butane. Some propane
> detectors can be damaged by using butane to test them. I use a
> propane torch, unlighted of course, to test.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> >
> > Thats a good test. I am so uneasy with my 14 year old unit that
I
> > even question the results of 'rally potlucks' that wake me and
> catch
> > my attention in the middle of the night.
> >
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Ernie & Bob,
> > >
> > > Usually a propane cigarette lighter will set it Off, Howling.
> > > Blow the flame out and hold it against the sniffer, until it
> yelps.
> > >
> > > IF you disconnect the detector wires at the solenoid valve ,
> then
> > add
> > > a 12 volt jumper wire you can hear and test the solenoid
valve,
> > This
> > > will open the gas valve, This valve opens with 12 volts,
then
> > the
> > > detector lowers the hold open voltage to about 4 Volts to 8
> > Volts.
> > > You can use a full 12 volts for a short time to hold the valve
> > > open & fry an egg, But it is designed for a lower maintenance
> > > voltage. The solenoid will get hot , This is not good for the
> > > flamable propane gas.
> > > Ernie you could find your Butt in Canada.
> > >
> > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I bet the unit is shot.
> > > >
> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > > 83PT40
> > > > Livingston, Montana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on
> AOL
> > > Money &
> > > > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?
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> > > >
> > >
> >
>