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My 1973 has had all the belts removed. I'd like to install shoulder
and lap belts. Found a location online selling belts brackets etc.
Any one with experience on this perhaps you would give me some basic
instructions. I am mostly concerned about the anchor point for the
shoulder part of the install. I assume that the floor area is pretty
straight forward. I am hoping that I can find and use the original
anchor points on the floor. Area has been re carpeted but hopefully
I can locate and use them. I told you guys I'd have lots of
questions. Its going well however for me and I am really enjoying
the process.

John Heckman
Central Pa
1973 FC

That might be a bit of a job. I would think the only safe way to do it
would be to remove the wall panel and weld in a bracket to allow for a
shoulder type belt. I think you will be able to locate the old floor holes
by looking from below, or pulling up the current carpet. It might help to
look and see how shoulder belts are installed in newer coaches. Let us all
know if you do the project, it would be nice to have that added safety, yet
I usually feel that I have to be more careful of the other guy for his
safety, not mine.





Jim



From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bubblerboy64
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:32 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] seat and shoulder belts



My 1973 has had all the belts removed. I'd like to install shoulder
and lap belts. Found a location online selling belts brackets etc.
Any one with experience on this perhaps you would give me some basic
instructions. I am mostly concerned about the anchor point for the
shoulder part of the install. I assume that the floor area is pretty
straight forward. I am hoping that I can find and use the original
anchor points on the floor. Area has been re carpeted but hopefully
I can locate and use them. I told you guys I'd have lots of
questions. Its going well however for me and I am really enjoying
the process.

John Heckman
Central Pa
1973 FC





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There is another way but very expensive is to buy new seats with
unified seat belts
Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "James Hutchings"
wrote:
>
> That might be a bit of a job. I would think the only safe way to do it
> would be to remove the wall panel and weld in a bracket to allow for a
> shoulder type belt. I think you will be able to locate the old floor
holes
> by looking from below, or pulling up the current carpet. It might
help to
> look and see how shoulder belts are installed in newer coaches. Let
us all
> know if you do the project, it would be nice to have that added
safety, yet
> I usually feel that I have to be more careful of the other guy for his
> safety, not mine.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bubblerboy64
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:32 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] seat and shoulder belts
>
>
>
> My 1973 has had all the belts removed. I'd like to install shoulder
> and lap belts. Found a location online selling belts brackets etc.
> Any one with experience on this perhaps you would give me some basic
> instructions. I am mostly concerned about the anchor point for the
> shoulder part of the install. I assume that the floor area is pretty
> straight forward. I am hoping that I can find and use the original
> anchor points on the floor. Area has been re carpeted but hopefully
> I can locate and use them. I told you guys I'd have lots of
> questions. Its going well however for me and I am really enjoying
> the process.
>
> John Heckman
> Central Pa
> 1973 FC
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

So is the belt built into the seat and then the seat is fastened to the
floor with some type of cable system? Who sells them? Sounds interesting
for the future.



Jim



From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Birtles
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:02 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: seat and shoulder belts



There is another way but very expensive is to buy new seats with
unified seat belts
Stephen 77fc35

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
, "James Hutchings"
wrote:
>
> That might be a bit of a job. I would think the only safe way to do it
> would be to remove the wall panel and weld in a bracket to allow for a
> shoulder type belt. I think you will be able to locate the old floor
holes
> by looking from below, or pulling up the current carpet. It might
help to
> look and see how shoulder belts are installed in newer coaches. Let
us all
> know if you do the project, it would be nice to have that added
safety, yet
> I usually feel that I have to be more careful of the other guy for his
> safety, not mine.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of bubblerboy64
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:32 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] seat and shoulder belts
>
>
>
> My 1973 has had all the belts removed. I'd like to install shoulder
> and lap belts. Found a location online selling belts brackets etc.
> Any one with experience on this perhaps you would give me some basic
> instructions. I am mostly concerned about the anchor point for the
> shoulder part of the install. I assume that the floor area is pretty
> straight forward. I am hoping that I can find and use the original
> anchor points on the floor. Area has been re carpeted but hopefully
> I can locate and use them. I told you guys I'd have lots of
> questions. Its going well however for me and I am really enjoying
> the process.
>
> John Heckman
> Central Pa
> 1973 FC
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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In May I ordered new Flexsteel captain's chairs from Custom RV Interiors in
Vancouver, Washington. They told us that they could not/would not install
shoulder harness units on a vehicle that did not have them from the factory. A
variety of legal and liability issues is the way I understood it.

On 7/10/2007 at 3:02 AM Stephen Birtles wrote:

>There is another way but very expensive is to buy new seats with
>unified seat belts
>Stephen 77fc35

Try this School Bus parts place.

http://www.schoolbuspartsco.com/WebPages...belts.html

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> My 1973 has had all the belts removed. I'd like to install
shoulder
> and lap belts. Found a location online selling belts brackets etc.
> Any one with experience on this perhaps you would give me some
basic
> instructions. I am mostly concerned about the anchor point for the
> shoulder part of the install. I assume that the floor area is
pretty
> straight forward. I am hoping that I can find and use the original
> anchor points on the floor. Area has been re carpeted but
hopefully
> I can locate and use them. I told you guys I'd have lots of
> questions. Its going well however for me and I am really enjoying
> the process.
>
> John Heckman
> Central Pa
> 1973 FC
>

When I removed the seat-belted sofa from my coach, I noted that the
belts were installed to heavy pieces of angle iron (about 3/16") that
were bolted to the floor with 3/8" self-taping bolts. The bolts went
into the steel sub-sub-floor.

The anchor point for a shoulder harness will be a problem, depending
on your seat placement in your coach, you'd need to open the wall(s)
next to the driving/passenger seats and weld in a suitably strong
piece of steel (perhaps a piece of channel or square tube) between
the frame members -- or if you're especially lucky, you may find a
suitable vertical steel frame tube located where the anchor is to be
placed. Even so, it will be necessary to open the wall to find the
frame pieces. While working on my coach, I find that thin steel
plates are used at the joints between the sheets of plywood used for
the interior walls -- if you don't open the wall, this may fool you
into thinking you've found something strong to make an attachment --
but I doubt that these connection pieces are actually robust enough
to trust as a shoulder harness anchor.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:34 PM, James Hutchings wrote:

> That might be a bit of a job. I would think the only safe way to
> do it
> would be to remove the wall panel and weld in a bracket to allow for a
> shoulder type belt. I think you will be able to locate the old
> floor holes
> by looking from below, or pulling up the current carpet. It might
> help to
> look and see how shoulder belts are installed in newer coaches.
> Let us all
> know if you do the project, it would be nice to have that added
> safety, yet
> I usually feel that I have to be more careful of the other guy for his
> safety, not mine.
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