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Greetings everyone,

Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20
miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no
damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...

Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the Bronx...

Bus has got all new shoes...

I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked
intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I
took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???

Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the mileage...

Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem
worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...
Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???

After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all switches
on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not
engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you think???
Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB





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Larry:

Although not familiar with your bus, it could be a problem with a
sending unit. I drive tour buses during the spring and summer months. On
the VanHool coaches I sometimes drive, the retarder will cut-out if the
speedometer acts up. They are equipped with Cummins M11 400 HP/Allison
four, five and six speed. This may not be the situation with a BB -
just thought I'd throw that out there for discussion. I'll watch for the
responses and learn something about the BB FC.

Good luck

Joe (Pappy) Hagan
St. George, UT (Originally Queens)
Wannabe




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20
> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no
> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...
>
> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the
Bronx...
>
> Bus has got all new shoes...
>
> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked
> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I
> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???
>
> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the
mileage...
>
> Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem
> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...
> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???
>
> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all
switches
> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not
> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you
think???
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Pappy,
Thank you, I will take that idea and give it a shot, I won't know unless I try
it...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

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Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 9:15:11 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Need Some Help















Larry:



Although not familiar with your bus, it could be a problem with a

sending unit. I drive tour buses during the spring and summer months. On

the VanHool coaches I sometimes drive, the retarder will cut-out if the

speedometer acts up. They are equipped with Cummins M11 400 HP/Allison

four, five and six speed. This may not be the situation with a BB -

just thought I'd throw that out there for discussion. I'll watch for the

responses and learn something about the BB FC.



Good luck



Joe (Pappy) Hagan

St. George, UT (Originally Queens)

Wannabe



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

wrote:

>

> Greetings everyone,

>

> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20

> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no

> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...

>

> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the

Bronx...

>

> Bus has got all new shoes...

>

> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked

> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I

> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???

>

> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the

mileage...

>

> Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem

> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...

> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???

>

> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all

switches

> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not

> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you

think???

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>

>

>

>

>

>

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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20
> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire...
no
> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...
>
> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in
the Bronx...
>
> Bus has got all new shoes...
>
> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked
> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and
when I
> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???
>
> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the
mileage...
>


straight, no problem
> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not
start...
> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???
>
> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all
switches
> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did
not
> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you
think???
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
>
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larry=== several weeks ago my jacobs retarder also stopped working
and i have not have time to look at it. i hope it is only a fuse or
something simple. when you find out what is wrong with yours please
post what it took you to repair it, and if i repair mine before you
do i also will post me repair job.


ed and peggy
"lonesome dove"
1983fc 35RB

Ed,
Thank you and I will do that...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: Peggy & Ed McStay
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 11:18:17 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Need Some Help













--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry ...>

wrote:

>

> Greetings everyone,

>

> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20

> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire...

no

> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...

>

> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in

the Bronx...

>

> Bus has got all new shoes...

>

> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked

> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and

when I

> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???

>

> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the

mileage...

>



straight, no problem

> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not

start...

> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???

>

> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all

switches

> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did

not

> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you

think???

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>

>

>

>

>

>

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larry=== several weeks ago my jacobs retarder also stopped working

and i have not have time to look at it. i hope it is only a fuse or

something simple. when you find out what is wrong with yours please

post what it took you to repair it, and if i repair mine before you

do i also will post me repair job.



ed and peggy

"lonesome dove"

1983fc 35RB
















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I don't know how your system is set up. But, some people have noted that they
have a
fuse for the retarder above the battery compartment (which on my 82 is near the
left front
tire). Perhaps the vibration from the blow out broke or dislodged the fuse.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20
> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no
> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...
>
> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the
Bronx...
>
> Bus has got all new shoes...
>
> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked
> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I
> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???
>
> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the mileage...
>
> Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem
> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...
> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???
>
> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all switches
> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not
> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you think???
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Larry, sorry to hear about the blow out. Glad you are ok, kept
control and did not suffer any body damage. It could have been a
whole lot worse. Just a lil info for ya. The previous owner had a
blow-out on the way back to Mass from Myrtle Beach (home of the third
annual BB rally) and I was told he bought one new tire on the road
and replaced the rest when he got home. I guess he was at the mercy
of what he could find on the road.

Your retarder, it operates independantly of any brake controls, fuel
pedals etc, it is not a "jake brake" it is actually a giant electro
magnet. Slows the drive shaft down. First of all is your dash switch
on? If yes, then I would go further into it. Maybe a relay is stuck,
grab the wiring diagram. There are 4 relays in the big box under the
coach beside the retarder, you can also check there, not only for a
stuck/burnt relay but corroded wires. It is possible that if the
switch is left on and the handle in one of the stop positions, it
draws ALOT of current, I would check the above. They are pretty
dependable units, and actually very durable, and yep real expensive.
Grab the electrical diagram and check the path of wires,looking for
blown fuses, stuck/burnt relays, and burnt wires. OH and working on
your coach always check the grounds. :>) After that let us know.

TIRES, Michelin/BFG plant is in Greenville SC (B Janes neck of the
woods) and yes they are made in the same plant, and prolly the same
assembly line. I find it hard to believe that they are the same
compounds. Think about it.

Scott B
86FC
SC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20
> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire...
no
> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...
>
> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in
the Bronx...
>
> Bus has got all new shoes...
>
> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked
> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and
when I
> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???
>
> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the
mileage...
>
> Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem
> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not
start...
> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???
>
> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all
switches
> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did
not
> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you
think???
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Kerry,
Thanks, will take a look...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

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Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 10:59:34 AM
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I don't know how your system is set up. But, some people have noted
that they have a

fuse for the retarder above the battery compartment (which on my 82 is near the
left front

tire). Perhaps the vibration from the blow out broke or dislodged the fuse.



Kerry

82 FC 35

Denver



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry wrote:

>

> Greetings everyone,

>

> Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20

> miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no

> damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...

>

> Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the
Bronx...

>

> Bus has got all new shoes...

>

> I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked

> intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I

> took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???

>

> Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the mileage...

>

> Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem

> worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...

> Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???

>

> After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all switches

> on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not

> engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you think???

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>

>

>

>

>

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Larry:

Been there done that one. Glad all is ok.

Check the grounds for the spedo problem. Open the drivers headlight
compartment and see if the ground strap is corroded.

The gen set. Open the slide and on the entry door side, under the manifold,
there should be a fuel shut off solenoid, see if it is pulling in when
trying to start, if not then check for 12 vdc on the wires going to it. If
power is present then you have a bad solenoid. If no power, then suspect a
relay in the control box. Just a place to start.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma


>--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Greetings everyone,
>
> >
>
> > Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20
>
> > miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no
>
> > damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...
>
> >
>
> > Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the
> Bronx...
>
> >
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> > Bus has got all new shoes...
>
> >
>
> > I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked
>
> > intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I
>
> > took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???
>
> >
>
> > Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the mileage...
>
> >
>
> > Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem
>
> > worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...
>
> > Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???
>
> >
>
> > After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all switches
>
> > on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not
>
> > engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you think???
>
> > Sea Ya
>
> > Larry
>
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Hi Ralph,
Thanks for the info, I will check that out this weekend, hopefully the temps
will be in the double digits instead of the single ones now...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 10:46:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Need Some Help













Larry:



Been there done that one. Glad all is ok.



Check the grounds for the spedo problem. Open the drivers headlight

compartment and see if the ground strap is corroded.



The gen set. Open the slide and on the entry door side, under the manifold,

there should be a fuel shut off solenoid, see if it is pulling in when

trying to start, if not then check for 12 vdc on the wires going to it. If

power is present then you have a bad solenoid. If no power, then suspect a

relay in the control box. Just a place to start.



Safe travels,



Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

84FC35

Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma



>--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Greetings everyone,

>

> >

>

> > Well, to begin with after returning home from my sisters in VA, 20

>

> > miles from storage space I had a blow out in the left front tire... no

>

> > damage to coach just tire and roughed up the rim...

>

> >

>

> > Today I went and had all new tires installed at the Tire Supply in the

> Bronx...

>

> >

>

> > Bus has got all new shoes...

>

> >

>

> > I noticed that on the previous trip that my speedo only worked

>

> > intermittently, would work fine until I stopped for a break and when I

>

> > took off again the speedo did not work... Is this unusual???

>

> >

>

> > Probably explains why the hours are high in comparison to the mileage...

>

> >

>

> > Next, I ran the generator for about 10 hours straight, no problem

>

> > worked fine, this morning when starting up coach it would not start...

>

> > Oil level fine, water level fine, fuel level fine... Any ideas???

>

> >

>

> > After getting all the tires replaced left the shop and put all switches

>

> > on that needed to be on and when I went to use the retarder it did not

>

> > engage, it did work on the way to the tire shop... What do you think???

>

> > Sea Ya

>

> > Larry

>

> > NYC

>

> > 84 35FCSB

>

> >

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> >

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> >

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