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Gardner Yeaw

08-16-2006, 04:52
I have a few places where there is rust showing through the paint, like
just below the Wanderlodge emblem on the rear and a couple of other
places. The worst is on top of the refrigerator vent cap.

I realize once started it is never completely stopped, but I am
curious what have others used to treat the affected areas before
repainting. Ospho is one product suggested, but is it good under
exterior paint? Are there other products that have given good results?

My current plan is to clean up the affected areas, treat them, and
prime them for protection until I am ready for paint. I live in the
North East, so I want to be ready for the winter (outdoor storage with
a cover).

Thanks,
Gardner
78FC33

Leroy Eckert

08-16-2006, 05:22
Gardner:

Ospho works well and is designed to be painted. I used Ospho on my propane
tank, then painted with engine paint. Looks new. I have also used POR15
extensively. It is great stuff.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB40
Niceville, FL







----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint


I have a few places where there is rust showing through the paint, like
just below the Wanderlodge emblem on the rear and a couple of other
places. The worst is on top of the refrigerator vent cap.

I realize once started it is never completely stopped, but I am
curious what have others used to treat the affected areas before
repainting. Ospho is one product suggested, but is it good under
exterior paint? Are there other products that have given good results?

My current plan is to clean up the affected areas, treat them, and
prime them for protection until I am ready for paint. I live in the
North East, so I want to be ready for the winter (outdoor storage with
a cover).

Thanks,
Gardner
78FC33





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birdshill123

08-16-2006, 05:27
In my youth I was a manager of a Ziebart rust proofing shop. Took lots
of training on how and why you get rust. Have you tried to poke an awl
through the rust? If the metal is perforated then the rust is coming
from behind the body panel. To repair this properly the cancerous
portions have to be cut out and replaced. Any other method of repair
is temporary and a waste of time. If the bubbling is simply rust that
is between the paint and the body then you have no real problem. Most
rust comes from the inside of the body, especially in an RV.

Bruce 1988 FC35

Gardner Yeaw

08-16-2006, 07:11
Bruce,
I will give it the awl test, but it seems like surface. I can see,
however, that since it is below the emblem it probably started in the
holes used to mount it, and therefor could be deeper than I had hoped.

Ernie,
Yup, we talked about the tank already, I was interested in
differences between that and the galvanized metal.

Thanks
Gardner
FC7833
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> In my youth I was a manager of a Ziebart rust proofing shop. Took
lots
> of training on how and why you get rust. Have you tried to poke an
awl
> through the rust? If the metal is perforated then the rust is coming
> from behind the body panel. To repair this properly the cancerous
> portions have to be cut out and replaced. Any other method of repair
> is temporary and a waste of time. If the bubbling is simply rust that
> is between the paint and the body then you have no real problem. Most
> rust comes from the inside of the body, especially in an RV.
>
> Bruce 1988 FC35
>

Leroy Eckert

08-16-2006, 12:23
Gardner:
I'm passing along the name of a product that will cut your cosmetic maintenance
time dramatically. I have been using it for 15 years on any metal that needs
polishing. It isn't cheap, you get what you pay for. It is the best I have
found.

It is Semichrome--available over the internet at http://www.mall4antiques.com About
$70.00 for 1000 grams. Imported from Germany, the can should last about 5 years
if you only use it on the bus.(Wheels , bumpers, mirrors, etc.) Beware! When
you first open the can it will knock you down with a heavy ammonia smell.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL







----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint




Gardner:

Ospho works well and is designed to be painted. I used Ospho on my propane
tank, then painted with engine paint. Looks new. I have also used POR15
extensively. It is great stuff.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB40
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint

I have a few places where there is rust showing through the paint, like
just below the Wanderlodge emblem on the rear and a couple of other
places. The worst is on top of the refrigerator vent cap.

I realize once started it is never completely stopped, but I am
curious what have others used to treat the affected areas before
repainting. Ospho is one product suggested, but is it good under
exterior paint? Are there other products that have given good results?

My current plan is to clean up the affected areas, treat them, and
prime them for protection until I am ready for paint. I live in the
North East, so I want to be ready for the winter (outdoor storage with
a cover).

Thanks,
Gardner
78FC33

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Gardner Yeaw

08-16-2006, 12:53
Leroy,
I think we used to use something called simichrome magic wadding polish,
which came in a can and was basically a fibrous material soaked in
something. You would take a little wad and polish things up. It worked
great, but was a bit cheaper. (But that was 40 years ago). It also seemed to
tarnish up faster, but again, that was also a long time ago.

Gardner
78FC35

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Leroy Eckert
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:24 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint



Gardner:
I'm passing along the name of a product that will cut your cosmetic
maintenance time dramatically. I have been using it for 15 years on any
metal that needs polishing. It isn't cheap, you get what you pay for. It is
the best I have found.

It is Semichrome--available over the internet at http://www.mall4antiques.com About
$70.00 for 1000 grams. Imported from Germany, the can should last about 5
years if you only use it on the bus.(Wheels , bumpers, mirrors, etc.)
Beware! When you first open the can it will knock you down with a heavy
ammonia smell.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint

Gardner:

Ospho works well and is designed to be painted. I used Ospho on my propane
tank, then painted with engine paint. Looks new. I have also used POR15
extensively. It is great stuff.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB40
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint

I have a few places where there is rust showing through the paint, like
just below the Wanderlodge emblem on the rear and a couple of other
places. The worst is on top of the refrigerator vent cap.

I realize once started it is never completely stopped, but I am
curious what have others used to treat the affected areas before
repainting. Ospho is one product suggested, but is it good under
exterior paint? Are there other products that have given good results?

My current plan is to clean up the affected areas, treat them, and
prime them for protection until I am ready for paint. I live in the
North East, so I want to be ready for the winter (outdoor storage with
a cover).

Thanks,
Gardner
78FC33

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Leroy Eckert

08-16-2006, 13:17
Gardner:

No wadding in the can. It is somekinda pink semi-paste. It's great. Will turn
your hands black. Yuk, but the wheels are beautiful. I think everything was
cheaper 40 years ago, but you didn't have some of the trick stuff we have today.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL







----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint


Leroy,
I think we used to use something called simichrome magic wadding polish,
which came in a can and was basically a fibrous material soaked in
something. You would take a little wad and polish things up. It worked
great, but was a bit cheaper. (But that was 40 years ago). It also seemed to
tarnish up faster, but again, that was also a long time ago.

Gardner
78FC35

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Leroy Eckert
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:24 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint

Gardner:
I'm passing along the name of a product that will cut your cosmetic
maintenance time dramatically. I have been using it for 15 years on any
metal that needs polishing. It isn't cheap, you get what you pay for. It is
the best I have found.

It is Semichrome--available over the internet at http://www.mall4antiques.com About
$70.00 for 1000 grams. Imported from Germany, the can should last about 5
years if you only use it on the bus.(Wheels , bumpers, mirrors, etc.)
Beware! When you first open the can it will knock you down with a heavy
ammonia smell.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint

Gardner:

Ospho works well and is designed to be painted. I used Ospho on my propane
tank, then painted with engine paint. Looks new. I have also used POR15
extensively. It is great stuff.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB40
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Minor rust under paint

I have a few places where there is rust showing through the paint, like
just below the Wanderlodge emblem on the rear and a couple of other
places. The worst is on top of the refrigerator vent cap.

I realize once started it is never completely stopped, but I am
curious what have others used to treat the affected areas before
repainting. Ospho is one product suggested, but is it good under
exterior paint? Are there other products that have given good results?

My current plan is to clean up the affected areas, treat them, and
prime them for protection until I am ready for paint. I live in the
North East, so I want to be ready for the winter (outdoor storage with
a cover).

Thanks,
Gardner
78FC33

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