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Morning everyone:

Am about to replace the e-6 break valve, any tricks to know about on this?

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

Morning everyone:

Am about to replace the e-6 break valve, any tricks to know about on this?

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

Ralph, what is an e-6 valve? Any thing that is threaded and
buggered up with patina and crud, I wire brush, then spray with PB
Blaster (Nappa), then wrap up in paper towle strips,then soak the
strips with PB blaster spray, give it time to soak . Casted parts
that have threads seem to stay clean if you plug the threads up with
teflon paste even if the thread fit is not intended to be water tight
(like a jic/flare).
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> Morning everyone:
>
> Am about to replace the e-6 break valve, any tricks to know about
on this?
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
>

> Have the E-6 valve in and piped. Started the Coach and no Joy. The new
> valve is bad out of the box. All air spews out of the bottom exhaust as
> fast as the pump is trying to put it in. I hold the break ped down and no
> leaks, Coach builds air, release the break and PSTTTTTT all air is
> vented.

A set of good tools to have around are thread chaser files, just a thought.

Greg, the E-6 is the dual break peddle valve. Old brass piping and a 6"x8"
hole to work in. This puppy is a 2 six pack job.


Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

Greg, I'm glad you asked. Was wondering too but thought someone would ask.

Thanx.

Glad you enjoyed Q & wish we could have been there.

Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] E-6 Break valve



> Have the E-6 valve in and piped. Started the Coach and no Joy. The new
> valve is bad out of the box. All air spews out of the bottom exhaust as
> fast as the pump is trying to put it in. I hold the break ped down and no
> leaks, Coach builds air, release the break and PSTTTTTT all air is
> vented.

A set of good tools to have around are thread chaser files, just a thought.

Greg, the E-6 is the dual break peddle valve. Old brass piping and a 6"x8"
hole to work in. This puppy is a 2 six pack job.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma





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Ralph,
Just had mine done, the guy was glad to see me drive away, it was a
tuff job.
When I got home I had to call him to let him know that the retarder
wasn't working with the brake. Took it back the next day, he had to
open it all up again to get in there and fix it. Forgot to hook
something up I guess, it took him most of the day. He was realy glad
to see me drive away the second time.
Say hi to Charolette!

Robert Britton
87FC
Hollister, California

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
>
> > Have the E-6 valve in and piped. Started the Coach and no Joy.
The new
> > valve is bad out of the box. All air spews out of the bottom
exhaust as
> > fast as the pump is trying to put it in. I hold the break ped
down and no
> > leaks, Coach builds air, release the break and PSTTTTTT all air
is
> > vented.
>
> A set of good tools to have around are thread chaser files, just a
thought.
>
> Greg, the E-6 is the dual break peddle valve. Old brass piping and
a 6"x8"
> hole to work in. This puppy is a 2 six pack job.
>
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
>

Ralph, Robert, I gather the E-6 brake controller
assembly is somewhat analogus to a master cylinder.
Somewhat in that controlled air pressures from
this are sent to diaghrams when the brake treadle
is pressed. I also doubt that I would be changing
thing out but I would like to know how to detect
a faulty one.

Did this defective controller show during stardard
air brake testing? Sound of air releasing? irratic
braking or some other tests?
Thanks,
bob janes, 87fc35, greenville, sc

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Britton"
wrote:
>
> Ralph,
> Just had mine done, the guy was glad to see me drive away, it was a
> tuff job.
> When I got home I had to call him to let him know that the retarder
> wasn't working with the brake. Took it back the next day, he had to
> open it all up again to get in there and fix it. Forgot to hook
> something up I guess, it took him most of the day. He was realy
glad
> to see me drive away the second time.
> Say hi to Charolette!
>
> Robert Britton
> 87FC
> Hollister, California
>

The E-6 brake valve leaked air on the 78FC33 that I had. As I
remember, there is an exhaust port on the very bottom of it that
gets full of crud (from a dirty air system) and hangs partially open
and bleeds off the air. Worked OK, but would drain the air tank
quickly when shut down. You are correct, the brake pedal is mounted
to it and
there are about 6 air lines attached.

David Hollis 84FC35 Springfield,IL


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot"
wrote:
>
> Ralph, Robert, I gather the E-6 brake controller
> assembly is somewhat analogus to a master cylinder.
> Somewhat in that controlled air pressures from
> this are sent to diaghrams when the brake treadle
> is pressed. I also doubt that I would be changing
> thing out but I would like to know how to detect
> a faulty one.
>
> Did this defective controller show during stardard
> air brake testing? Sound of air releasing? irratic
> braking or some other tests?
> Thanks,
> bob janes, 87fc35, greenville, sc
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Britton"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ralph,
> > Just had mine done, the guy was glad to see me drive away, it
was a
> > tuff job.
> > When I got home I had to call him to let him know that the
retarder
> > wasn't working with the brake. Took it back the next day, he had
to
> > open it all up again to get in there and fix it. Forgot to hook
> > something up I guess, it took him most of the day. He was realy
> glad
> > to see me drive away the second time.
> > Say hi to Charolette!
> >
> > Robert Britton
> > 87FC
> > Hollister, California
> >
>

Would not hold air pressure after shut down, took about an hour or
two to drain the tank. From under the front of the coach I could hear
air leaking and was able to isolate it to the break valve. To get to
it for repair, the front driver seat needs to be removed and under
the carpet there is an access plate to remove. Not much room to work
and to many air lines for me to mess with.....but for Ralph it's just
a walk in the park, hows the job comming along Ralph?

Robert Britton
87FC
Hollister, California

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot"
wrote:
>
> Ralph, Robert, I gather the E-6 brake controller
> assembly is somewhat analogus to a master cylinder.
> Somewhat in that controlled air pressures from
> this are sent to diaghrams when the brake treadle
> is pressed. I also doubt that I would be changing
> thing out but I would like to know how to detect
> a faulty one.
>
> Did this defective controller show during stardard
> air brake testing? Sound of air releasing? irratic
> braking or some other tests?
> Thanks,
> bob janes, 87fc35, greenville, sc
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Britton"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ralph,
> > Just had mine done, the guy was glad to see me drive away, it was
a
> > tuff job.
> > When I got home I had to call him to let him know that the
retarder
> > wasn't working with the brake. Took it back the next day, he had
to
> > open it all up again to get in there and fix it. Forgot to hook
> > something up I guess, it took him most of the day. He was realy
> glad
> > to see me drive away the second time.
> > Say hi to Charolette!
> >
> > Robert Britton
> > 87FC
> > Hollister, California
> >
>

Hi Robert and everyone from Florida:

Have not gotten back to it as yet, will head home tomorrow to get another
valve since the first one was bad out of the box. Fighting the cold in
Oklahoma as well.

Symptoms were pressing the break pedal and it was soft and leaking air to
include air passing out of the spring break valve. New bad valve would leak
out of the exhaust on the bottom of the break valve but hold air when pressed.

I wish it were a walk in the park, no cut out under the carpet can only get
to it behind the headlight, drivers side.

Best to your bride, Robert.

Ralph

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC35 Duncan, Oklahoma
Ralph's RV Solutions


At 03:26 AM 2/1/2007 +0000, you wrote:
>Would not hold air pressure after shut down, took about an hour or
>two to drain the tank. From under the front of the coach I could hear
>air leaking and was able to isolate it to the break valve. To get to
>it for repair, the front driver seat needs to be removed and under
>the carpet there is an access plate to remove. Not much room to work
>and to many air lines for me to mess with.....but for Ralph it's just
>a walk in the park, hows the job comming along Ralph?
>
>Robert Britton
>87FC
>Hollister, California
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ralph, Robert, I gather the E-6 brake controller
> > assembly is somewhat analogus to a master cylinder.
> > Somewhat in that controlled air pressures from
> > this are sent to diaghrams when the brake treadle
> > is pressed. I also doubt that I would be changing
> > thing out but I would like to know how to detect
> > a faulty one.
> >
> > Did this defective controller show during stardard
> > air brake testing? Sound of air releasing? irratic
> > braking or some other tests?
> > Thanks,
> > bob janes, 87fc35, greenville, sc
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Britton"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ralph,
> > > Just had mine done, the guy was glad to see me drive away, it was
>a
> > > tuff job.
> > > When I got home I had to call him to let him know that the
>retarder
> > > wasn't working with the brake. Took it back the next day, he had
>to
> > > open it all up again to get in there and fix it. Forgot to hook
> > > something up I guess, it took him most of the day. He was realy
> > glad
> > > to see me drive away the second time.
> > > Say hi to Charolette!
> > >
> > > Robert Britton
> > > 87FC
> > > Hollister, California
> > >
> >
>
>