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I would like to have LED marker lights on my FC, but I really like the
look of the stock "flush mount" light units, so I am not interested in
changing out to the commonly seen surface-mount units. So, my
questions:

1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a replacement for the standard
bulb and fits in the original socket?

2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there that is a flush mount like
the original ones?

I can't find either of these.

Thanks
Scott Forman
'Tiger Pride'
82 FC35RB
Memphis

You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have led replacement bulbs, marker
lights, etc.

R.W.Webb

Cedar Rapids, IA

91 WBWL
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
>
> I would like to have LED marker lights on my FC, but I really like the
> look of the stock "flush mount" light units, so I am not interested in
> changing out to the commonly seen surface-mount units. So, my
> questions:
>
> 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a replacement for the standard
> bulb and fits in the original socket?
>
> 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there that is a flush mount like
> the original ones?
>
> I can't find either of these.
>
> Thanks
> Scott Forman
> 'Tiger Pride'
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
>




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Try super bright leds and look through the whole list. Be sure to
check polarity on your bulbs. leds must be polarity correct.
Changed out all the bulbs on my coach.
their site is superbrightleds dot com.
Greg

I think the problem with replacing the bulbs in the pre-'88? clearance lamps
with leds is the bulb needs to have right angle leds to work. Didn't see them at
superbrightleds.

Scott Peatross
'87 PT40


pbe43 wrote:


Try super bright leds and look through the whole list. Be sure to
check polarity on your bulbs. leds must be polarity correct.
Changed out all the bulbs on my coach.
their site is superbrightleds dot com.
Greg






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Hi all,

Saw the post about LED lights and am fresh from
Parliament Club rally (with mostly current BB owners,
and many former BB folks) where we heard both
Parliament repair techs and Ft. Valley seminar folks
respond to customer LED light issues.

Both tech groups caused lots of eyes to pop open
when they discussed problems with LED lights being
very sensitive to voltage fluctuations and transients,
and the how they are working/experimenting to see what
can be done to solve the apparent problems. I don't
have enough understanding to discuss the retrofit
matter one way or the other; however, as I don't
recall reading anything about the issue here among
Forum members, I'm passing on the caveat for whatever
it may be worth.

John Suter
2000LXi


--- rogerwwebb wrote:

>
> You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have led
> replacement bulbs, marker lights, etc.
>
> R.W.Webb
>
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> 91 WBWL
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott
> Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to have LED marker lights on my FC,
> but I really like the
> > look of the stock "flush mount" light units, so I
> am not interested in
> > changing out to the commonly seen surface-mount
> units. So, my
> > questions:
> >
> > 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a
> replacement for the standard
> > bulb and fits in the original socket?
> >
> > 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there that
> is a flush mount like
> > the original ones?
> >
> > I can't find either of these.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott Forman
> > 'Tiger Pride'
> > 82 FC35RB
> > Memphis
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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John at last the motorhome industry is being awakened to the
problems in installing LEDs in motorhomes and in fact anywhere. Each
LED has a specification as to the voltage and current needed to fire
the LED. What everyone didnt consider is the fact that the voltage
cant fluctuate very much for instance connected directly to a turn
signal light. The voltage fluctuations of off and on, significantly
reduces the life of the LED. Here is a very good explanation of the problems.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY
At 03:50 PM 1/14/2006, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
> Saw the post about LED lights and am fresh from
>Parliament Club rally (with mostly current BB owners,
>and many former BB folks) where we heard both
>Parliament repair techs and Ft. Valley seminar folks
>respond to customer LED light issues.
>
> Both tech groups caused lots of eyes to pop open
>when they discussed problems with LED lights being
>very sensitive to voltage fluctuations and transients,
>and the how they are working/experimenting to see what
>can be done to solve the apparent problems. I don't
>have enough understanding to discuss the retrofit
>matter one way or the other; however, as I don't
>recall reading anything about the issue here among
>Forum members, I'm passing on the caveat for whatever
>it may be worth.
>
>John Suter
>2000LXi
>
>
>--- rogerwwebb wrote:
>
> >
> > You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have led
> > replacement bulbs, marker lights, etc.
> >
> > R.W.Webb
> >
> > Cedar Rapids, IA
> >
> > 91 WBWL
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott
> > Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to have LED marker lights on my FC,
> > but I really like the
> > > look of the stock "flush mount" light units, so I
> > am not interested in
> > > changing out to the commonly seen surface-mount
> > units. So, my
> > > questions:
> > >
> > > 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a
> > replacement for the standard
> > > bulb and fits in the original socket?
> > >
> > > 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there that
> > is a flush mount like
> > > the original ones?
> > >
> > > I can't find either of these.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 'Tiger Pride'
> > > 82 FC35RB
> > > Memphis
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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leds are built to work in a very narrow voltage range
too high a voltage and there is greatly diminished product life
too low a voltage and they will not light
there is a sawoff between there two levels. If a driver is used to
allow operation at a higher voltage then the low voltage cutoff rises
inversely if the low voltage level is droppped then the high voltage
level drops also.
Unfortunately LEDs work best with a constant defined voltage ie. 12
volts exactly and that is something that is rarely available in an
Automotive application and also there must be some amount of igniton
protection.
Now this not to say that LEDs are not suitable for automotive use and
there are many millions of LEDs installed in cars, trucks, buses and
the like. A quality bulb must be purchased and this equates to higher
cost
.
Stephen 77fc35




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, John Suter
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Saw the post about LED lights and am fresh from
> Parliament Club rally (with mostly current BB owners,
> and many former BB folks) where we heard both
> Parliament repair techs and Ft. Valley seminar folks
> respond to customer LED light issues.
>
> Both tech groups caused lots of eyes to pop open
> when they discussed problems with LED lights being
> very sensitive to voltage fluctuations and transients,
> and the how they are working/experimenting to see what
> can be done to solve the apparent problems. I don't
> have enough understanding to discuss the retrofit
> matter one way or the other; however, as I don't
> recall reading anything about the issue here among
> Forum members, I'm passing on the caveat for whatever
> it may be worth.
>
> John Suter
> 2000LXi
>
>
> --- rogerwwebb wrote:
>
> >
> > You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have led
> > replacement bulbs, marker lights, etc.
> >
> > R.W.Webb
> >
> > Cedar Rapids, IA
> >
> > 91 WBWL
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott
> > Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to have LED marker lights on my FC,
> > but I really like the
> > > look of the stock "flush mount" light units, so I
> > am not interested in
> > > changing out to the commonly seen surface-mount
> > units. So, my
> > > questions:
> > >
> > > 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a
> > replacement for the standard
> > > bulb and fits in the original socket?
> > >
> > > 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there that
> > is a flush mount like
> > > the original ones?
> > >
> > > I can't find either of these.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 'Tiger Pride'
> > > 82 FC35RB
> > > Memphis
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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Hi Tom,

The very last sentence of your post sounded to me
like you were going to add a reference, or website,
which would expand on your points; however, nothing
came through. Did I misinterpret??

John


--- Tom Warner wrote:

> John at last the motorhome industry is being
> awakened to the
> problems in installing LEDs in motorhomes and in
> fact anywhere. Each
> LED has a specification as to the voltage and
> current needed to fire
> the LED. What everyone didnt consider is the fact
> that the voltage
> cant fluctuate very much for instance connected
> directly to a turn
> signal light. The voltage fluctuations of off and
> on, significantly
> reduces the life of the LED. Here is a very good
> explanation of the problems.
>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
> At 03:50 PM 1/14/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> > Saw the post about LED lights and am fresh from
> >Parliament Club rally (with mostly current BB
> owners,
> >and many former BB folks) where we heard both
> >Parliament repair techs and Ft. Valley seminar
> folks
> >respond to customer LED light issues.
> >
> > Both tech groups caused lots of eyes to pop open
> >when they discussed problems with LED lights being
> >very sensitive to voltage fluctuations and
> transients,
> >and the how they are working/experimenting to see
> what
> >can be done to solve the apparent problems. I
> don't
> >have enough understanding to discuss the retrofit
> >matter one way or the other; however, as I don't
> >recall reading anything about the issue here among
> >Forum members, I'm passing on the caveat for
> whatever
> >it may be worth.
> >
> >John Suter
> >2000LXi
> >
> >
> >--- rogerwwebb wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have
> led
> > > replacement bulbs, marker lights, etc.
> > >
> > > R.W.Webb
> > >
> > > Cedar Rapids, IA
> > >
> > > 91 WBWL
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott
> > > Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would like to have LED marker lights on my
> FC,
> > > but I really like the
> > > > look of the stock "flush mount" light units,
> so I
> > > am not interested in
> > > > changing out to the commonly seen
> surface-mount
> > > units. So, my
> > > > questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a
> > > replacement for the standard
> > > > bulb and fits in the original socket?
> > > >
> > > > 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there
> that
> > > is a flush mount like
> > > > the original ones?
> > > >
> > > > I can't find either of these.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Scott Forman
> > > > 'Tiger Pride'
> > > > 82 FC35RB
> > > > Memphis
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
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John I apologize I had saved it to a tiny URL and then forgot to plug
it in. Here is one even better. http://tinyurl.com/9qcbp



Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY





At 03:50 PM 1/14/2006, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
> Saw the post about LED lights and am fresh from
>Parliament Club rally (with mostly current BB owners,
>and many former BB folks) where we heard both
>Parliament repair techs and Ft. Valley seminar folks
>respond to customer LED light issues.
>
> Both tech groups caused lots of eyes to pop open
>when they discussed problems with LED lights being
>very sensitive to voltage fluctuations and transients,
>and the how they are working/experimenting to see what
>can be done to solve the apparent problems. I don't
>have enough understanding to discuss the retrofit
>matter one way or the other; however, as I don't
>recall reading anything about the issue here among
>Forum members, I'm passing on the caveat for whatever
>it may be worth.
>
>John Suter
>2000LXi
>
>
>--- rogerwwebb wrote:
>
> >
> > You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have led
> > replacement bulbs, marker lights, etc.
> >
> > R.W.Webb
> >
> > Cedar Rapids, IA
> >
> > 91 WBWL
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott
> > Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to have LED marker lights on my FC,
> > but I really like the
> > > look of the stock "flush mount" light units, so I
> > am not interested in
> > > changing out to the commonly seen surface-mount
> > units. So, my
> > > questions:
> > >
> > > 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a
> > replacement for the standard
> > > bulb and fits in the original socket?
> > >
> > > 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there that
> > is a flush mount like
> > > the original ones?
> > >
> > > I can't find either of these.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 'Tiger Pride'
> > > 82 FC35RB
> > > Memphis
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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No apology necessary, Tom, and your URL addition
should be "required reading" for all Forum members
contemplating the LED change, especially the "devil in
the details" issues of current regulation (of which
voltage fluctuation is the counterpart) and air
circulation.

As I previously stated, many of us in attendance
when the techs were discussing the complaints, were in
shock when we heard the considerable details they
still are working to resolve. Such cavalier
statements as, "you could add resistors in parallel"
and "well, you know the inverters tend to put out
square wave D.C." and "there are some voltage
transient issues among the house battery 4/0 wiring
leads giving us fits" led this old builder/repairer of
T.V.'s and Ham radios to think there may be some
issues I need to see resolved before I consider...
So I'm-a-gonna watch some other body be the test pilot
for retrofits; volunteers take one step forward, take
the point, and report back on all enemy fire.

John Suter


--- Tom Warner wrote:

> John I apologize I had saved it to a tiny URL and
> then forgot to plug
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>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
>
>
>
>
> At 03:50 PM 1/14/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> > Saw the post about LED lights and am fresh from
> >Parliament Club rally (with mostly current BB
> owners,
> >and many former BB folks) where we heard both
> >Parliament repair techs and Ft. Valley seminar
> folks
> >respond to customer LED light issues.
> >
> > Both tech groups caused lots of eyes to pop open
> >when they discussed problems with LED lights being
> >very sensitive to voltage fluctuations and
> transients,
> >and the how they are working/experimenting to see
> what
> >can be done to solve the apparent problems. I
> don't
> >have enough understanding to discuss the retrofit
> >matter one way or the other; however, as I don't
> >recall reading anything about the issue here among
> >Forum members, I'm passing on the caveat for
> whatever
> >it may be worth.
> >
> >John Suter
> >2000LXi
> >
> >
> >--- rogerwwebb wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You might try http://www.superbrightleds.com they have
> led
> > > replacement bulbs, marker lights, etc.
> > >
> > > R.W.Webb
> > >
> > > Cedar Rapids, IA
> > >
> > > 91 WBWL
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott
> > > Forman" <sforman@r...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would like to have LED marker lights on my
> FC,
> > > but I really like the
> > > > look of the stock "flush mount" light units,
> so I
> > > am not interested in
> > > > changing out to the commonly seen
> surface-mount
> > > units. So, my
> > > > questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Has anyone found an LED bulb that is a
> > > replacement for the standard
> > > > bulb and fits in the original socket?
> > > >
> > > > 2) Is there a replacement LED unit out there
> that
> > > is a flush mount like
> > > > the original ones?
> > > >
> > > > I can't find either of these.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Scott Forman
> > > > 'Tiger Pride'
> > > > 82 FC35RB
> > > > Memphis
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
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