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Does anyone know the brand and part number for the alternator used on
a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am not getting any
current output on either aleternator. I was able to check the rear
unit and belts are tight.
Anyhelp would be apreciated.

Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
Westminster, Md

Nelson dont assume that both alternators are bad. I suggest you check
the voltage at the output of each alternator and then if you get a
reading there the input to your isolator if you have one in the 1994.
It is unlikely that both alternators would go bad at once. I would
look for another problem. This is where a good voltmeter pays for
itself as you trace the path from the alternator to the batteries.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 09:58 AM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the brand and part number for the alternator used on
>a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am not getting any
>current output on either aleternator. I was able to check the rear
>unit and belts are tight.
>Anyhelp would be apreciated.
>
>Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
>Westminster, Md
>
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Good morning Nelson:

There are 2 Bosh relays (among several)(and they are usually turned
backwards, so you can't readily see the contacts) on the curb side behind
the access grill to the batteries area, that control the out put of the
alternators. This is selectable by the switch on the dash, alt 1/ alt 2.
The connection to those relays could be corroded or the relays bad. That
would the first thing to check. Then check the out put from the alts.
though I agree, the one on top is a bear to get to.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

At 02:58 PM 11/27/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the brand and part number for the alternator used on
>a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am not getting any
>current output on either aleternator. I was able to check the rear
>unit and belts are tight.
>Anyhelp would be apreciated.
>
>Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
>Westminster, Md
>
>

Ralph, I too wonder if my Alts are working. I run the gen often and
plug in all the time so charge has never been an issue. Is the dash
switch used to view the reading or does it switch the alts on and off?
Gregory O'Connor
94pt40 Romoland CAlifornia
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wrote:
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> Good morning Nelson:
>
> There are 2 Bosh relays (among several)(and they are usually turned
> backwards, so you can't readily see the contacts) on the curb side
behind
> the access grill to the batteries area, that control the out put of
the
> alternators. This is selectable by the switch on the dash, alt 1/
alt 2.
> The connection to those relays could be corroded or the relays bad.
That
> would the first thing to check. Then check the out put from the
alts.
> though I agree, the one on top is a bear to get to.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
>
> At 02:58 PM 11/27/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know the brand and part number for the alternator used
on
> >a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am not getting any
> >current output on either aleternator. I was able to check the rear
> >unit and belts are tight.
> >Anyhelp would be apreciated.
> >
> >Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
> >Westminster, Md
> >
> >
>

Hi Greg:

Actually, I have seen it both ways with the dash switch. I have seen the
alts wired to the relays to switch the "view" via a common shunt and they
also pulled in the coil of large solenoids to switch out the alt. Then I
have seen the alts going to an isolator and the dash switch only switched
out the view but not which alt was being used. Personally I would want both
alts putting out and only see the view of each one via the dash switch.

The isolator can be just that or BB used solenoids as isolators as well,
with an and or configuration. These solenoids are separate from the above.

Generally though, the alts are usually working but the view wiring is the
actual problem.

Then we get into the huge 300 amp oil cooled alt. Whew, hate to get that
one rebuilt.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

At 04:51 PM 11/27/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Ralph, I too wonder if my Alts are working. I run the gen often and
>plug in all the time so charge has never been an issue. Is the dash
>switch used to view the reading or does it switch the alts on and off?
>Gregory O'Connor
>94pt40 Romoland CAlifornia
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> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning Nelson:
> >
> > There are 2 Bosh relays (among several)(and they are usually turned
> > backwards, so you can't readily see the contacts) on the curb side
>behind
> > the access grill to the batteries area, that control the out put of
>the
> > alternators. This is selectable by the switch on the dash, alt 1/
>alt 2.
> > The connection to those relays could be corroded or the relays bad.
>That
> > would the first thing to check. Then check the out put from the
>alts.
> > though I agree, the one on top is a bear to get to.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> > http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
> >
> > At 02:58 PM 11/27/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Does anyone know the brand and part number for the alternator used
>on
> > >a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am not getting any
> > >current output on either aleternator. I was able to check the rear
> > >unit and belts are tight.
> > >Anyhelp would be apreciated.
> > >
> > >Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
> > >Westminster, Md
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Tom,
Thanks for your advice. What I did today was check the
output of each alternator with a amp meter (Loop
type). I checked the large cables coming from each
alternator that was terminated at the fire wall in the
battery compartment and not was able to get a reading
at all. If I plug the bus into shore power I am able
to get get about 5 amps, and I also get a reading on
the amp meter on the dash. I assume this is from the
battery chargers. Any other advice would be
appreciated.

--- Tom Warner wrote:

> Nelson dont assume that both alternators are bad. I
> suggest you check
> the voltage at the output of each alternator and
> then if you get a
> reading there the input to your isolator if you have
> one in the 1994.
> It is unlikely that both alternators would go bad at
> once. I would
> look for another problem. This is where a good
> voltmeter pays for
> itself as you trace the path from the alternator to
> the batteries.
>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
> At 09:58 AM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know the brand and part number for the
> alternator used on
> >a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am
> not getting any
> >current output on either aleternator. I was able to
> check the rear
> >unit and belts are tight.
> >Anyhelp would be apreciated.
> >
> >Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
> >Westminster, Md
> >
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Remember you only have current flow out of the alternators IF you
have a good ground at the alternator and IF you have a complete path
for current to flow. If you use a voltmeter then you dont have to
worry about current flow. When I first got my 1982 FC35 the ground
was intermittent from my alternator. The BB factory had installed the
ground from the alternator to the top of the air compressor and over
the years it had built up corrosion.

Here is what I would recommend. With the engine off touch use either
a voltmeter or a mechanics light (12VDC bulb with a positive and
negative probe) in the following manner. Black lead to ground, red
lead to the +_(positive ) terminal on the alternator. You should read
approximately 13.2 Volts or what ever the voltage output of the
battery is. If you dont read anything, then somewhere between the
battery and your alternator you either have a bad ground or a break
in your positive cable. If you do have an isolator that could be your problem.

If you do read approximately 31.2 VDC at the alternator + terminal,
start the engine and see if the voltage increases to approximately
14.2 VDC. If you get any voltage at all wait and see if it gradually
starts to rise indicating your batteries are charging.

I still have a feeling you have good alternators. I have never seen
both go out at the same time.

good luck

tom warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


At 04:34 PM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
>Tom,
>Thanks for your advice. What I did today was check the
>output of each alternator with a amp meter (Loop
>type). I checked the large cables coming from each
>alternator that was terminated at the fire wall in the
>battery compartment and not was able to get a reading
>at all. If I plug the bus into shore power I am able
>to get get about 5 amps, and I also get a reading on
>the amp meter on the dash. I assume this is from the
>battery chargers. Any other advice would be
>appreciated.
>
>--- Tom Warner wrote:
>
> > Nelson dont assume that both alternators are bad. I
> > suggest you check
> > the voltage at the output of each alternator and
> > then if you get a
> > reading there the input to your isolator if you have
> > one in the 1994.
> > It is unlikely that both alternators would go bad at
> > once. I would
> > look for another problem. This is where a good
> > voltmeter pays for
> > itself as you trace the path from the alternator to
> > the batteries.
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> > At 09:58 AM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
> > >Does anyone know the brand and part number for the
> > alternator used on
> > >a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am
> > not getting any
> > >current output on either aleternator. I was able to
> > check the rear
> > >unit and belts are tight.
> > >Anyhelp would be apreciated.
> > >
> > >Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
> > >Westminster, Md
> > >
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Tom,
Thanks for the advice I will check that tomorrow. I
will let you know the results. It's too cold now.

Thanks
Nelson

--- Tom Warner wrote:

> Remember you only have current flow out of the
> alternators IF you
> have a good ground at the alternator and IF you have
> a complete path
> for current to flow. If you use a voltmeter then you
> dont have to
> worry about current flow. When I first got my 1982
> FC35 the ground
> was intermittent from my alternator. The BB factory
> had installed the
> ground from the alternator to the top of the air
> compressor and over
> the years it had built up corrosion.
>
> Here is what I would recommend. With the engine off
> touch use either
> a voltmeter or a mechanics light (12VDC bulb with a
> positive and
> negative probe) in the following manner. Black lead
> to ground, red
> lead to the +_(positive ) terminal on the
> alternator. You should read
> approximately 13.2 Volts or what ever the voltage
> output of the
> battery is. If you dont read anything, then
> somewhere between the
> battery and your alternator you either have a bad
> ground or a break
> in your positive cable. If you do have an isolator
> that could be your problem.
>
> If you do read approximately 31.2 VDC at the
> alternator + terminal,
> start the engine and see if the voltage increases to
> approximately
> 14.2 VDC. If you get any voltage at all wait and
> see if it gradually
> starts to rise indicating your batteries are
> charging.
>
> I still have a feeling you have good alternators. I
> have never seen
> both go out at the same time.
>
> good luck
>
> tom warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
>
> At 04:34 PM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
> >Tom,
> >Thanks for your advice. What I did today was check
> the
> >output of each alternator with a amp meter (Loop
> >type). I checked the large cables coming from each
> >alternator that was terminated at the fire wall in
> the
> >battery compartment and not was able to get a
> reading
> >at all. If I plug the bus into shore power I am
> able
> >to get get about 5 amps, and I also get a reading
> on
> >the amp meter on the dash. I assume this is from
> the
> >battery chargers. Any other advice would be
> >appreciated.
> >
> >--- Tom Warner wrote:
> >
> > > Nelson dont assume that both alternators are
> bad. I
> > > suggest you check
> > > the voltage at the output of each alternator and
> > > then if you get a
> > > reading there the input to your isolator if you
> have
> > > one in the 1994.
> > > It is unlikely that both alternators would go
> bad at
> > > once. I would
> > > look for another problem. This is where a good
> > > voltmeter pays for
> > > itself as you trace the path from the alternator
> to
> > > the batteries.
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> able to
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Nelson,
I rebuilt my alternators on my 91 WLWB 40. I tried all the tests that
you are hearing about here (including isolating each alt. and letting it try to
pick the load) and when I finally got to the top one, it had black dust coming
out the vents and the bearings were shot. I went ahead and got both overhauled
for $201.00. The nomenclature for them is Prestolite #906011 & 4725JC, Delco
#19010126 (160 AMP), and GM# 1117920. The best source of this info is the data
plate on the alternator when you take it off. I got these numbers from BB and
the Alternators themselves. Be sure and replace the belts so you don't have to
go back into that top one again! (Don't seal it up completely-I ran it about
three hours and went back in to set the correct belt tension before "buttoning"
it up).
Best of luck - by the way, that was 40,000 miles ago and they have been
doing fine.

Bob & Judy Johannesen
91WLWB40, FMCA F72567, WL #1986, Vintage Birds #345
Argyle, Texas

"Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote:
Hi Greg:

Actually, I have seen it both ways with the dash switch. I have seen the
alts wired to the relays to switch the "view" via a common shunt and they
also pulled in the coil of large solenoids to switch out the alt. Then I
have seen the alts going to an isolator and the dash switch only switched
out the view but not which alt was being used. Personally I would want both
alts putting out and only see the view of each one via the dash switch.

The isolator can be just that or BB used solenoids as isolators as well,
with an and or configuration. These solenoids are separate from the above.

Generally though, the alts are usually working but the view wiring is the
actual problem.

Then we get into the huge 300 amp oil cooled alt. Whew, hate to get that
one rebuilt.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

At 04:51 PM 11/27/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Ralph, I too wonder if my Alts are working. I run the gen often and
>plug in all the time so charge has never been an issue. Is the dash
>switch used to view the reading or does it switch the alts on and off?
>Gregory O'Connor
>94pt40 Romoland CAlifornia
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning Nelson:
> >
> > There are 2 Bosh relays (among several)(and they are usually turned
> > backwards, so you can't readily see the contacts) on the curb side
>behind
> > the access grill to the batteries area, that control the out put of
>the
> > alternators. This is selectable by the switch on the dash, alt 1/
>alt 2.
> > The connection to those relays could be corroded or the relays bad.
>That
> > would the first thing to check. Then check the out put from the
>alts.
> > though I agree, the one on top is a bear to get to.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> > http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
> >
> > At 02:58 PM 11/27/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Does anyone know the brand and part number for the alternator used
>on
> > >a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am not getting any
> > >current output on either aleternator. I was able to check the rear
> > >unit and belts are tight.
> > >Anyhelp would be apreciated.
> > >
> > >Nelson SLinkman 1994 40'
> > >Westminster, Md
> > >
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Hi Tom,

I haven't been able to be on the site much and am happy to see you are still
helping with electrical needs. You helped me with a good price on an
alternator a year or so back. I sure do appreciate that. Also, On a trip awhile
back, my engine experienced a brief shutdown (maybe 3-5 seconds) and
later a complete shutdown. I coasted off the ramp and sat there a few minutes
and it started right up. I have had no problems as of late, but have to admit it
makes me a little nervous. One more thing - not sure if it is related. When the
bus has been running a good while and I shut her down for a lunch stop etc,
sometimes it will not start (turn over) from the front. But, if I go to the back
of
the bus it always starts from there. Any suggestions?

Thanks - Dave in Tulsa (84PT40 - 6V92)

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, nelson slinkman <
nslinkman@y...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> Thanks for your advice. What I did today was check the
> output of each alternator with a amp meter (Loop
> type). I checked the large cables coming from each
> alternator that was terminated at the fire wall in the
> battery compartment and not was able to get a reading
> at all. If I plug the bus into shore power I am able
> to get get about 5 amps, and I also get a reading on
> the amp meter on the dash. I assume this is from the
> battery chargers. Any other advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> --- Tom Warner wrote:
>
> > Nelson dont assume that both alternators are bad. I
> > suggest you check
> > the voltage at the output of each alternator and
> > then if you get a
> > reading there the input to your isolator if you have
> > one in the 1994.
> > It is unlikely that both alternators would go bad at
> > once. I would
> > look for another problem. This is where a good
> > voltmeter pays for
> > itself as you trace the path from the alternator to
> > the batteries.
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> > At 09:58 AM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
> > >Does anyone know the brand and part number for the
> > alternator used on
> > >a 1994 detroit 8v92? My fault light is on and I am
> > not getting any
> > >current output on either aleternator. I was able to
> > check the rear
> > >unit and belts are tight.
> > >Anyhelp would be apreciated.
> > >
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> > >Westminster, Md
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